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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:53:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Net Grading Nightmare
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From: Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com>
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Stan, This string of messages is beginning to thin.
In order to perk it up, I will indicate that less than
perfect coins should be called - cats!! Roger
--- Stan Stephens <sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu> wrote:
> I have heard Jim Long (JEL coins)use the P-I-G word
> to describe coins he
> owned and had for sale. Its hard to make a counter
> comment.
> Stan
>
> jkraljevich wrote:
> >
> > Unless anyone has a pet pig, I've always been
> partial to that term
> > for a particularly ugly copper.
> >
> > To paraphrase Animal House, ?that coin is a P-I-G
> pig.?
> >
> > Of course, if you do have a pet pig, perhaps this
> is not the place
> > for a confession.
> >
> > JK
> >
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Roger Moore
> > ?rogermoore435@y...? wrote:
> > ? Ray, I hope we are good enogh friends for you
> to know
> > ? when I am pulling your leg!! Roger
> > ?
> > ?
> > ? --- Ray Williams ?njraywms@o...? wrote:
> > ? ? Roger,
> > ? ? If you like dogs so much, we should swap
> > ? ? collections ?BG?. Maybe it may
> > ? ? have been a poor choice of words, but all knew
> what
> > ? ? I meant. I will attempt
> > ? ? to keep this in mind when I describe coins in
> the
> > ? ? future that are much less
> > ? ? than beautiful. ?s?
> > ? ? Ray W
> > ? ? ----- Original Message -----
> > ? ? From: ?Roger Moore? ?rogermoore435@y...?
> > ? ? To: ?colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com?
> > ? ? Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:31 AM
> > ? ? Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Net
> Grading
> > ? ? Nightmare
> > ? ?
> > ? ?
> > ? ? ? I object to the use of the word ?dog? in a
> > ? ? derogatory
> > ? ? ? manner. Dogs are God's gift from heaven. I
> have
> > ? ? ? never met a dog I didn't like - even ones
> that
> > ? ? bite
> > ? ? ? coins!!! Roger
> > ? ? ?
> > ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? --- Ray Williams ?njraywms@o...? wrote:
> > ? ? ? ? Now we're on the same page. That I agree
> to.
> > ? ? ? ? Colonial collectors have the
> > ? ? ? ? best attitudes about the hobby and their
> coins
> > ? ? and
> > ? ? ? ? the coins of others. I
> > ? ? ? ? have never shown any of my coins to others
> and
> > ? ? heard
> > ? ? ? ? a negative comment.
> > ? ? ? ? With the exception of one or two, I think
> that
> > ? ? over
> > ? ? ? ? 90% of us have coins in
> > ? ? ? ? our collections that are real ?dogs? to
> look at,
> > ? ? but
> > ? ? ? ? we don't belittle
> > ? ? ? ? others coins and there's always something
> to
> > ? ? like
> > ? ? ? ? about every colonial.
> > ? ? ? ? Ray W
> > ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ----- Original Message -----
> > ? ? ? ? From: ?John Lorenzo? ?johnmenc@o...?
> > ? ? ? ? To: ?colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com?
> > ? ? ? ? Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:34 PM
> > ? ? ? ? Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Net
> Grading
> > ? ? ? ? Nightmare
> > ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? All I can say to this Ray as I can not
> > ? ? remember an
> > ? ? ? ? EAC meeting at any
> > ? ? ? ? ? convention when the subject matter did
> not
> > ? ? involve
> > ? ? ? ? grading to some
> > ? ? ? ? ? degree. Instead of talking coins is
> always
> > ? ? ? ? grading-grading-grading.
> > ? ? ? ? ? When an EAC person picks up a large cent
> its
> > ? ? ? ? usually ?what is wrong
> > ? ? ? ? ? with this coin.? I can only speak for
> myself -
> > ? ? ? ? when I pick up a
> > ? ? ? ? ? colonial its ?What is GOOD about this
> coin!?
> > ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? Now its NUFF SAID!!!
> > ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com,
> Ray
> > ? ? ? ? Williams ?njraywms@o...?
> > ? ? ? ? ? wrote:
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? I was a little afraid of this
> happening...
> > ? ? I
> > ? ? ? ? was hoping to avoid
> > ? ? ? ? ? specifics
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? of the difficulties experienced in EAC
> > ? ? grading
> > ? ? ? ? over the years. I
> > ? ? ? ? ? wanted to
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? just use general concerns from EAC
> grading
> > ? ? and
> > ? ? ? ? try not to fall into
> > ? ? ? ? ? the same
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? pits. We should learn from what
> others have
> > ? ? ? ? done, whether positive
> > ? ? ? ? ? or
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? negative lessons. This is not my
> egroup so
> > ? ? I
> > ? ? ? ? can't determine
> > ? ? ? ? ? what's said or
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? not said on these posts. But I would
> be
> > ? ? ? ? offended if C4 problems
> > ? ? ? ? ? were
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? discussed in detail on the EAC egroup
> and we
> > ? ? ? ? weren't a part of it.
> > ? ? ? ? ? So if
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? there's no objections, can we make
> reference
> > ? ? to
> > ? ? ? ? the general EAC
> > ? ? ? ? ? grading when
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? we're making comparisons... I'll say
> no
> > ? ? more -
> > ? ? ? ? as Rob would
> > ? ? ? ? ? say, ?Nuff
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? Said?.
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? Ray W
> > ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ----- Original Message -----
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? From: ?John Lorenzo? ?johnmenc@o...?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? To: ?colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:09 PM
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re:
> Net
> > ? ? Grading
> > ? ? ? ? Nightmare
> > ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The net grade becomes a problem
> because
> > ? ? each
> > ? ? ? ? ?individual? will
> > ? ? ? ? ? reduce
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? a coin a certain amount numerically
> with
> > ? ? no
> > ? ? ? ? constant set of
> > ? ? ? ? ? factors
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? in place for this reduction other
> than the
> > ? ? net
> > ? ? ? ? grader's opinion.
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Noyes hated porosity and I had seen
> VF-20
> > ? ? ? ? Large Cents coins
> > ? ? ? ? ? reduced
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? to G-6 levels simply due to
> porosity. I
> > ? ? know I
> > ? ? ? ? BOUGHT a few. Which
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? was good for me and bad for the
> consigner.
> > ? ? ? ? Anywhere else it was a
>
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