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- From freidus@wwnet.net Thu May 25 19:22:01 2000
Return-Path: <freidus@wwnet.net> Received: (qmail 32061 invoked from network); 26 May 2000 02:22:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 May 2000 02:22:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ziggy.wwnet.net) (209.142.193.4) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 May 2000 02:22:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 11920 invoked from network); 26 May 2000 01:23:00 -0000 Received: from max5-179.pontiac.usabestnet.net (HELO ?209.142.225.179?) (209.142.225.179) by ziggy.wwnet.net with SMTP; 26 May 2000 01:23:00 -0000 X-Sender: freidus@mail.wwnet.net Message-Id: <v04003a01b5538976feb2@[209.142.225.179]> In-Reply-To: <17.610b494.265ef61b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 22:20:31 -0400 To: colonial-coins@egroups.com Subject: XRF From: Dan Freidus <freidus@wwnet.net>
I did some neutron activation analysis (NAA) on Higleys but I haven't done any XRF.
Here's my impression of the major difference between the usefulness of XRF and NAA. If anyone has any information or references that would help further our decisions about which method to use (if any), that owuld be great. I'm also working off the top of my head right now, so I won't include references. I also don't own a copy of Volume 2 of the RNS metallurgy series, so I do need to either buy a copy or stroll over to the library soon and take it out.
XRF is a technique to see what elements are on the surface of a coin. I believe that I have seen an esitmate of the thickness of the layer that contributes to the signal. It was measured in microns. Anyone who has ever cleaned a coin, whether with a thorn or any other tool, knows that it is not unusual for coins to have a layer with significantly different composition than the bulk of the coin. Even if there is nothing that can be easily removed, the patina is the result of chemical reactions, therefore the elemental composition of the surface layer has had some changes. TO determine whether XRF is useful on uncleaned coins with typical patination or those with significant encrustation, or dirty surfaces, we need a study to determine how much these factors affect the results. What would be needed are repeated measures of the same coin; as found, then cleaned down to bare metal. Skip, if you have an X-Ray fluorometer, I'd be glad to donate some coins for destructive testing [*not* Higleys :) ].
NAA requires putting a sample in the path of a neutron source and then reading the strenth and wavelength of radiation that is emitted from the sample. THis can be done with entire coins (and there are soem good reasons for doing this). However, the study I did using this technique was done with Don Gordus at Unviersity of Michigan (we're lucky to have a reactor on campus with an endowment, a holdover from "peaceful atom" days). Don prefers to use samples of a few micrograms scraped from the edge of a coin, which does require cleaning the sample area down to bare metal, though that area can be a square millimeter on the edge. I think this preference comes form having done most of his work in the past with silver and gold coins. Certain elements in these alloys remain radiioactive longer than the elements in copper and bronze coins. I once calculated that if one did NAA on a few hundred coins form their collection they would then need a federal license to store this now radioactive material.
Can XRF be done on microgram samples (Don collects them by scraping the clean area with a sandblasted quartz rod and then using the rod as the sample, or sample holder.
NAA on entire coins should be pretty good because the surface contributes a small amount to the entire signal. NAA on scraped samples elimanates the corrosion entirely. XRF ends up looking at the corroded layer exclusively (i.e. the patina). How significant of an issue is that? If Skip or John have an answer or anyone has a reference, great. Otherwise, I hesitate to draw much inference from XRF data.
That said, I think all the various data sources need to be used, with the constraints on their usefulness given full consideration. If the interesting quesions had simple answers, we'd probably already have them. I think we need to start with coins of known origin (at least down to continent), e.g. state coppers and Regal halfpennies. Then see what characteristics differ between these populations. Then look at the unknowns and see if they neatly fall into one or another category. Some probably will, I assume a large number will remain questionable. But that is my vision of what progress would look like. It's probably a constraint of my background as a scientist trying to do history or archaeology. Sure artistic style could be part of the data, buyt my gut feeling is that there were so many engravers that there was probably big overlap in the skill level of engravers on either side of the pond. Was the average skill level higher on the Eastern shore? Probably? But were there any decent engravers on the Western shore? Yes, the state coppers show us that.
I agree with Mike in thinking that there are a lot of types of data that could, and should, be used. I'm sorry that this turned out to be the length of one of my columns (hmmm, maybe I just saved myself some time next week...), but I think it's important for us to not latch onto one detail to the exclusion of other useful factors.
Dan
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