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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Higley Copper Copy
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From: Bijan <smiledoctor@earthlink.net>
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Hey guys,
Not for nothing, but it could be that this guy is being fed the coins, no? I
mean, I don't know who he is, but they certainly are curious to me. After
reading the threads, and what people like Clem and Morris have to say, I am
starting to change my mind on how I feel about it. Personally, I would not mind
buying things like this at a low price, however, like it has been mentioned,
this can and probably will fool the novice, and that is how the hobby can get
hurt. I don't like to see the hobby tarnished, and a couple of you guys have
made it clear (aka my eyes have been opened) that this is what will ultimately
happen. I suspect there is not much that can be done, but it would be nice to
see them termed, "fantasy pieces."
Peace,
Bijan
"Clement V. Schettino" wrote:
> Yes Marc, I agree, and not only that but you're right on the other account.
> I do have some very nice connections, which I've nurtured over the years
> that yield some GENUINE rarities for me. And I'd love to share them with the
> group, but fear, to some degree, that they'll be viewed with some doubt, in
> light of these obvious fabrications. Like I've said to another group member,
> this source comes up with more weird stuff in ONE week then ALL the dealers
> I know, put together, have come up with in there lifetimes. These
> descriptions he spews are a slap in our face. If some novice pulls, this
> coin was found in my dieing grandfathers lap, or some hole in some 18th
> century wall, from time to time that's one thing. But to make a business of
> it, it's sickening. We somehow need to put a stop to this! I realize this is
> not the purpose of this group but I also believe it is seriously affecting
> us directly. It's very bad for us, and the hobby in general. If this group
> does not want to deal with this then email me directly ands lets figure out
> what steps are necessary to put a stop to this, privately. He's targeting
> OUR brethren and we should do whatever we can.
>
> Seriously,
> Clement V. Schettino
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: remi66111 [mailto:1-mar@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:45 PM
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Higley Copper Copy
>
> ---
> Hey Guys,
> Seriously, isn't it against the law to reproduce colonial issues
> without marking them copies? I saw a bogus piece sell on ebay for over
> $400.00 the other day. Granted, the buyer was naive and fueled by
> greed but still, he's going to be pissed when he wakes up. I sure hope
> the seller can verify his medieval hoard story should someone notify
> the authorities. I'm afraid this could get ugly if this guy keeps
> offering up similar crap.
> Regards,
> Marc
>
> In colonial-coins@y..., Bijan <smiledoctor@e...> wrote:
> > Morris,
> >
> > I bet you could!
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Bijan
> >
> > Morris Hankins wrote:
> >
> > > Got to give the devil his due, he does have talent.
> > >
> > > I just wonder how many more of his fantasy pieces are
> > > going to wind up in my personal collection.
> > >
> > > I know Jeff has quite a collection. Want to trade
> > > some Real for Ctfts, Jeff? Whoops am already doing
> > > that - Geo II and III.
> > >
> > > I wonder if I could get him to cast some pieces?
> > >
> > > Morris
> > >
> > > --- Bijan <smiledoctor@e...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Jeff!
> > > >
> > > > Great copy.....do I recognize the workmanship? It
> > > > appears similar to
> > > > things I have seen on ebay. Quite a talent that
> > > > fellow.
> > > >
> > > > Peace,
> > > >
> > > > Bijan
> > > >
> > > > Rosaamltd@a... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, All! As promised, I am posting a picture of
> > > > the "struck copy" of
> > > > > a WHEELE GOES ROUND Higley copper that is in my
> > > > collection of colonial
> > > > > copies. I think it is engraved onto another coin,
> > > > not an actual
> > > > > struck piece -- and somehow I doubt that it is
> > > > 18th century (as one
> > > > > person claimed) or 19th century (as the person I
> > > > purchased it from
> > > > > said). However, it is a rather neat item, the
> > > > only copy I recall ever
> > > > > seeing of this type....
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