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Return-Path: <apietri@ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: apietri@ix.netcom.com X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 9 May 2002 22:46:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 77044 invoked from network); 9 May 2002 22:46:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 May 2002 22:46:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO granger.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.148) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 May 2002 22:46:36 -0000 Received: from pool-63.49.85.33.tmpa.grid.net ([63.49.85.33] helo=angelpietri) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 175wg9-0000Rh-00 for colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 09 May 2002 18:46:30 -0400 Message-ID: <001901c1f7aa$66bc4500$2155313f@angelpietri> To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> References: <1020923399.495.6307.m12@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Mott token Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 18:39:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "Angel Pietri" <apietri@ix.netcom.com> X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=36030408
John: I believe the Mott token was probably struck over a period of many years, very possibly into the 1840's when his sons Jordan Jr. and Jacob were in business. Judging from the texture of the token and its feel, I think the die was a product of the period around 1800 (+ or - a few years). The workmanship on the die does not in my opinion compare to the later New York tokens of ~ 1830's which show a superior quality. Though conjecture, I feel a succesful and long standing business of silversmiths and watchmakers would not have gone for such a token in the 1830's when superior craftmanship was easily available.
Having said that, there is very little to go on as far as determining when exactly the first token hit the streets.
As to genealogy, William and John were not from the same direct line. Were they cousins or distant relatives I do not know. Jordan Sr. was the son of Isaac Mott. Jordan had 7 children. Jame S., his second child, was the first to go into business with him. I do not know exactly when, but apparently from the directories pretty soon, he parted. He is reported to have died in an insane assylum. Jordan Jr., his fourth child, followed, and then Jacob his fifth. Garrell and Malavus followed. Where these four the Mott Bro. listed in 1840? I don't know. William and JC were not Jordan's sons. Again, how related were they i do not know. As to the chronometers, a key factor is that Jordan was not only a clockmaker but an importer of watches, clocks and chronometers.
Angel
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