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Forget the lead, that's not what makes casts go thunk instead of ring. I'm more interested in the general composition reported to have been "gun metal". To me, that says the coiners used whatever was to hand to make a copper looking coin.
By the way, there have been a number of articles on or incorporating the subject of metallurgical analysis of coins done here in the backward colonies on copper, silver, and gold coins. I've done a few, myself. Check out CNL, AJN(ii), the pattern coin guys, etc.
Fingerprinting ore sources has always been found to be something of a chimera, I'm afraid, save in the cases of coins struck on site and/or by miners and there the Brits have it over us, since they deal in some cases with virgin flans made by the mine owners whose advertisements the tokens bear. Here in the colonies, we used whatever copper, brass, tin, cannons, pots and pans (Machins) were to hand. The copper mines in Belleville, NJ may have supplied some ore to Rahway but that mine flooded in 1776 so any output was necessarily small. Ogden bought copper from an importer who got it from the UK in sheets, presumably it was cheaper and of better quality than local stuff. Whoever made the New Haven Fugios later on used whatever was around for the pieces variously called copper, red copper, yellow copper, red brass, brass, etc. My point is that the British experience was different from ours and is amenable to some fingerprinting of ore sources. Where one has to deal with admixtures, as we do, here, fingerprinting is not possible. A similar situation exists in the field of gold and mixed metal bars made in the western states in the 1800's, where mixing was ordinary and tracing impossible.
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