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- From mhodder@theworld.com Wed Oct 23 06:28:38 2002
Return-Path: <mhodder@theworld.com> X-Sender: mhodder@theworld.com X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 23 Oct 2002 13:28:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 28770 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 13:28:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Oct 2002 13:28:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO TheWorld.com) (199.172.62.105) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2002 13:28:34 -0000 Received: from linux (1Cust250.tnt7.bos2.da.uu.net [67.241.230.250]) by TheWorld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04270 for <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:25:24 -0400 Organization: bedlam To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Willow/NE Shilling is Phony Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:31:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_W7SFXP0FTUBIG0TW9JPW" Message-Id: <200210230931.08478.mhodder@theworld.com> From: mike hodder <mhodder@theworld.com> Reply-To: mhodder@theworld.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93877054 X-Yahoo-Profile: mike468hodder
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The Willow Tree Shilling struck over a New England Shilling that I published recently is fake. About a week ago, I saw an obviously counterfeit Willow Tree shilling that was struck from the same dies as seen on the overstrike. If the Willow is fake the overstrike has to be fake, too, and I'm guessing the New England shilling undertype is fake, as well.
I've uploaded jpg illustrations of the fake Willow Tree Shilling and the fake Willow/NE overstrike. If you compare the two, you'll see they were struck from the same false Willow dies.What the illustrations won't show is that the Willow coin is evenly thick everywhere , shows no signs of the S-bend from having been struck on a rocker press, and the edge shows it was made from modern, machine rolled strip.
By themselves, the Willow Tree Shilling dies are not really deceptive. The shilling I saw last week is on a non-deceptive flan, too, being too round, too evenly thick, and it has a rounded edge. I'm assuming the NE punches would also be non-decepetive and an NE flan made by this counterfeiter would also not be confused with the genuine. I don't think sophisticated collectors would be fooled by these fake dies. Beginners might, and I would not be surprised to see one or more of these in non-specialist dealers cases at shows.
More deceptive is the overstrike. It fooled me and some others. The flan was bent the way one would expect it to be, the edge raised no concerns, and the way the Willow and NE designs were blurred by the overstriking made them appear correct. The weight was high, especially for a holed coin, but not outside the range of observed weights for Massachusetts shillings.
The counterfeiter appears to be clever and experienced with Massachusetts silver coins. His Willow/NE overstrike was designed to fit into the known typological sequence and to represent a coin whose existence might not be unexpected. He also realized thatmaking such an overstrike gave him a unique coin which, if it were accepted as genuine, would be very valuable.
I owe collectors an apology for my mistake, particularly Lou Jordan and the other staff of the Colonial Newsletter, who published the coin as genuine.
Mike Hodder
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