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John: are you still interested in examining/photographing counterfeit
2Rs that are not in your writeup? I have one or two nice ones with 18th
century dates. Syd
jmkleeberg wrote:
> Hello Byron,
>
> I've also recently
> > referred Morris to your article on the Faithful Steward and had a
> > nice but brief discussion about the possibility of many counterfeit
> > halfpence having come from Ireland. Do you intend to ever do any
> > follow-up work in either of these areas?
>
> At the moment I'm holding off on doing anything more on pistareens or
> 2 reales. The 2 reales paper was very difficult. I would get all
> the die varieties arranged and was all set to write the descriptions -
>
> and then Mike Ringo would discover a half dozen new varieties, and I
> had to rearrange everything again.
>
> The areas for further research (expanding by analogy) would be
> counterfeit Federal quarters (after 1836), counterfeit reales and
> medios, and maybe an enumeration of the pistareen die varieties.
> Counterfeit reales would be the "easiest" except there would be a
> huge number of varieties, so I have always hoped someone else would
> do it.
>
> There is a second shoe on the Faithful Steward that has yet to drop:
> a museum in Delaware (I believe the Zwandendael Museum) has many of
> the coins from the shipwreck. I telephoned them once and they said
> the coins in storage and they were very difficult to get at. I
> haven't made a trip down there, partly because I am an utter
> incompetent with a camera, so I would need to have a photographer in
> tow to make the trip worthwhile. But Eric Newman found in his files
> a photo that someone had taken of those coins, and I have a decent
> photocopy of his photograph. What I found that was interesting was
> that there were many different die varieties - so it is an assorted
> batch that was shipped.
>
> Excuse my haphazard replies - I lurk and then post, and then get
> involved in law school stuff so I don't get back to the list for
> months.
>
> Best,
>
> John Kleeberg
>
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John: are you still interested in examining/photographing counterfeit
2Rs that are not in your writeup? I have one or two nice ones with
18th century dates. Syd
<p>jmkleeberg wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE> <tt>Hello Byron,</tt>
<p><tt>I've also recently</tt>
<br><tt>> referred Morris to your article on the Faithful Steward and had
a</tt>
<br><tt>> nice but brief discussion about the possibility of many counterfeit</tt>
<br><tt>> halfpence having come from Ireland. Do you intend to ever do
any</tt>
<br><tt>> follow-up work in either of these areas?</tt>
<p><tt>At the moment I'm holding off on doing anything more on pistareens
or</tt>
<br><tt>2 reales. The 2 reales paper was very difficult. I
would get all</tt>
<br><tt>the die varieties arranged and was all set to write the descriptions
-</tt>
<br><tt>and then Mike Ringo would discover a half dozen new varieties,
and I</tt>
<br><tt>had to rearrange everything again.</tt>
<p><tt>The areas for further research (expanding by analogy) would be</tt>
<br><tt>counterfeit Federal quarters (after 1836), counterfeit reales and</tt>
<br><tt>medios, and maybe an enumeration of the pistareen die varieties.</tt>
<br><tt>Counterfeit reales would be the "easiest" except there would be
a</tt>
<br><tt>huge number of varieties, so I have always hoped someone else would</tt>
<br><tt>do it.</tt>
<p><tt>There is a second shoe on the Faithful Steward that has yet to drop:</tt>
<br><tt>a museum in Delaware (I believe the Zwandendael Museum) has many
of</tt>
<br><tt>the coins from the shipwreck. I telephoned them once and
they said</tt>
<br><tt>the coins in storage and they were very difficult to get at.
I</tt>
<br><tt>haven't made a trip down there, partly because I am an utter</tt>
<br><tt>incompetent with a camera, so I would need to have a photographer
in</tt>
<br><tt>tow to make the trip worthwhile. But Eric Newman found in
his files</tt>
<br><tt>a photo that someone had taken of those coins, and I have a decent</tt>
<br><tt>photocopy of his photograph. What I found that was interesting
was</tt>
<br><tt>that there were many different die varieties - so it is an assorted</tt>
<br><tt>batch that was shipped.</tt>
<p><tt>Excuse my haphazard replies - I lurk and then post, and then get</tt>
<br><tt>involved in law school stuff so I don't get back to the list for</tt>
<br><tt>months.</tt>
<p><tt>Best,</tt>
<p><tt>John Kleeberg</tt>
<br>
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