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- From mhodder@theworld.com Thu Nov 07 07:22:08 2002
Return-Path: <mhodder@theworld.com> X-Sender: mhodder@theworld.com X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Nov 2002 15:22:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 60944 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2002 15:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Nov 2002 15:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 15:22:07 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.181] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2002 15:22:07 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 15:22:07 -0000 To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] XRF at C4 Message-ID: <aqe0ev+6dm8@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <12c.1ab57bca.2afb09cb@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1563 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "mike468hodder" <mhodder@theworld.com> X-Originating-IP: 67.242.199.184 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=93877054 X-Yahoo-Profile: mike468hodder
Ray:
Cleaning the coin with Care or Blue Ribbon isn't going to mask the copper or zinc or whatever content in the coin. XRF will still detect the superficial composition of the coin. However, whatever the degreasers are made of will also be detected and can skew the other readings to the high side or, worse, suggest the presence of elements not really in the coin. I suppose it would be possible to analyze the degreaser/silicon coating independently, then extract its elemental spectrum from the XRF readings taken from a cleaned coin. I never did this, however.
The point I've really been trying to make about XRF is this, that it only measures a very thin surface layer of the coin. With gold coins, that's not too bad when extrapolating results to the whole coin. For silver coins it's a problem, since silver always forms a protective layer of patination and usually that's all XRF can see. For coppers, it's an even bigger problem, since our favorite coins were often an ad hoc mix of whatever was available to melt that day, and each one of those elements reacts differently with each other, the air, surface contaminants like water, dirt, sweat, etc. Also, the alloys cannot be assumed to be homogenous from coin to coin or identical from melt to melt.
Analytical results on our coppers, even whole coin analyses (wet or NAA), are interesting, but IMHO, their application to the universes of their types is unwarranted. And I'd go so far as to say unwarranted even for a statistically significant sample of the whole.
Mike H
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