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Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:57:02 -0500
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Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Hard-to-believe Condition Coins
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From: Dan Freidus <freidus@wwnet.net>
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I completely agree with George. I've got a question about the BM
though. If I remember correctly, the large bequest you're talking
about was from Sophia Banks. Was she the actual collector or was it
a male relative? (I recall an influential gnet named Banks but can't
remember what connection he may have had to Sophia)
Dan Freidus
At 1:47 AM +0000 12/15/02, George Fuld <fuldy2000@yahoo.com wrote:
>Hi folks:
>
>It is not hard to believe 18th century coins retain full luster. At
>the British Museum which I checked in 1960, they had a wreath 1793
>cent in about 80% full red. They also had a lustrous 1794 dollar
>that was just sturck so it appeared. These were housed in coin
>cabinets for eons, having been given to the BM about 1808 from a lady
>collector. -
>
>So they can retain color if given good care.
>
>
>George Fuld
>
>
>
>-- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "colonialcoinunion
><jagre@a...>" <jagre@a...> wrote:
>> A dealer I work with (a well known outfit) showed me a number of
>English
>> coins and one or two Amercian colonials from the 1796 - 1806 era
>that they
>> recently purchased in a European auction.
>>
>> The coins were sold having been individually housed, apparently, in
>round,
>> single coin sized metal containers since the day they were struck.
>I saw the
>> metal containers - I have no reason to dispute the story.
>>
>> The coins are pristine, lustrous and superb to the point of being
>simply
>> unbelievable. Even ridiculous. No trace of darkening around the
>devices, not
>> even the slightest mellowing, etc.
>>
>> And so, as I am not all that experienced, and would have assumed
>> automatically, that any coin from that era in that condition must be
>cleaned,
>> colored, dipped, etc. I ask the experts among us:
>>
>> Is anybody familiar with the sale I'm describing?
>>
>> Has anybody seen coins of this era that have been housed in such
>> containers?
>>
>> Is it possible that coins stored in such a way could have survived
>with their as-
>> struck brilliance 100% (maybe 105%) intact?
>>
>> I am not considering buying these coins (in fact, I think they are
>already sold)
>> I'm just interested in any feedback / opinions, etc.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John Agre
>
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<div>I completely agree with George. I've got a question about
the BM though. If I remember correctly, the large bequest
you're talking about was from Sophia Banks. Was she the actual
collector or was it a male relative? (I recall an influential
gnet named Banks but can't remember what connection he may have had
to Sophia)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Dan Freidus</div>
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<div>At 1:47 AM +0000 12/15/02, George Fuld <fuldy2000@yahoo.com
wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><tt>Hi folks:<br>
<br>
It is not hard to believe 18th century coins retain full
luster. At<br>
the British Museum which I checked in 1960, they had a wreath 1793<br>
cent in about 80% full red. They also had a lustrous 1794
dollar<br>
that was just sturck so it appeared. These were housed in
coin<br>
cabinets for eons, having been given to the BM about 1808 from a
lady<br>
collector. -<br>
<br>
So they can retain color if given good care.<br>
<br>
<br>
George Fuld<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "colonialcoinunion<br>
<jagre@a...>" <jagre@a...> wrote:<br>
> A dealer I work with (a well known outfit) showed me a number
of<br>
English<br>
> coins and one or two Amercian colonials from the 1796 - 1806
era<br>
that they<br>
> recently purchased in a European auction.<br>
><br>
> The coins were sold having been individually housed, apparently,
in<br>
round,<br>
> single coin sized metal containers since the day they were
struck. <br>
I saw the<br>
> metal containers - I have no reason to dispute the story.<br>
><br>
> The coins are pristine, lustrous and superb to the point of
being<br>
simply<br>
> unbelievable. Even ridiculous. No trace of darkening
around the<br>
devices, not<br>
> even the slightest mellowing, etc.<br>
><br>
> And so, as I am not all that experienced, and would have
assumed<br>
> automatically, that any coin from that era in that condition
must be<br>
cleaned,<br>
> colored, dipped, etc. I ask the experts among us:<br>
><br>
> Is anybody familiar with the sale I'm describing?<br>
><br>
> Has anybody seen coins of this era that have been housed in
such<br>
> containers?<br>
><br>
> Is it possible that coins stored in such a way could have
survived<br>
with their as-<br>
> struck brilliance 100% (maybe 105%) intact?<br>
><br>
> I am not considering buying these coins (in fact, I think they
are<br>
already sold)<br>
> I'm just interested in any feedback / opinions, etc.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> John Agre<br>
<br>
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