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Ray, cast counterfeits were almost certainly cheaper to produce -- the cost was almost nothing! You needed the sand or wax to make the casting mold, and some cheap metal that could be melted down. Once you made the mold, you could spend the real coins that you used to impress the design. It was certainly more time intensive, and the number of casts you could get from a given mold would be small -- but if you could do it without getting caught, it was almost pure profit. On the other hand, struck copies would require a lot of capital investment -- a press capable of producing significant striking pressure, steel for dies, engraving tools, planchet cutting and rolling equipment, smelting equipment, not to mention some amount of talent to engrave the dies. Needless to say, there wouldn't be a whole lot of people who had an actual counterfeiting mint set up in their basement (well, other than in certain areas of New Jersey perhaps). I would guess that many of the struck counterfeits of the period were struck at other mints, token manufactures, button manufacturers (which would have almost similar equipment), and perhaps even "off the record" at some of the regular mints by moonlighting personnel.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Ray, cast counterfeits were almost certainly cheaper to produce -- the cost was almost nothing! You needed the sand or wax to make the casting mold, and some cheap metal that could be melted down. Once you made the mold, you could spend the real coins that you used to impress the design. It was certainly more time intensive, and the number of casts you could get from a given mold would be small -- but if you could do it without getting caught, it was almost pure profit. On the other hand, struck copies would require a lot of capital investment -- a press capable of producing significant striking pressure, steel for dies, engraving tools, planchet cutting and rolling equipment, smelting equipment, not to mention some amount of talent to engrave the dies. Needless to say, there wouldn't be a whole lot of people who had an actual counterfeiting mint set up in their basement (well, other than in certain areas of New Jersey perhaps). I would guess that many of the struck counterfeits of the period were struck at other mints, token manufactures, button manufacturers (which would have almost similar equipment), and perhaps even "off the record" at some of the regular mints by moonlighting personnel.</FONT></HTML>
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