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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:44:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: 1786 NJ 23r - Cast ?
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From: Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>
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Hey Morris,
There's no stupid questions on this group except for the ones not asked.
I have not personally run across any 23-R's that were cast. BUT I haven't
paid a lot of attention to counterfeit NJ's and it's difficult to tell
whether a cast is contemporary or modern. I'm hoping that Dan F will be
running with this. At C4 he had stepped forward to start to accumulate
information and pictures of counterfeit coins. Having found a few NJ's by
metal detecting, This does look like a dug coin. Better than most of what
I've pulled out of the ground. I think that Charles Smith would be a good
person to inquire to if you think this coin is cast. I know Phil Mossman
has an interest in cast coins too.
We should know what each other's interests are. I occassionally see
something on ebay or hear of something I think unusual, and send an email to
a friend that specializes in that area. Back to the NJ Census - I need to
mail it first thing in the AM and I can't get several individules on the
phone.
Ray W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Morris Hankins" <joshalso2000@yahoo.com>
To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: 1786 NJ 23r - Cast ?
> There were two questions. Neither linked. The second
> was a request for info on coin pictured.
>
> There was an article written by one of the gentlemen
> of this group concerning cast New Jerseys. Was there
> a 23r Cast?
>
> I have a complete set of CNL's coming but don't have
> them yet. When I get them I will not bother asking
> what some people apparently consider stupid questions.
>
> Morris
>
>
> --- "Clement V. Schettino" <CopperClem@attbi.com>
> wrote:
> > Thank you David.
> >
> > Clem
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dp1787 <palmers4@erols.com>
> > [mailto:palmers4@erols.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:17 PM
> > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: 1786 NJ 23r -
> > Cast ?
> >
> > Morris, That is what Clem refers to as a grounder.
> > It appears to
> > have been rescued, then "conserved" to stop further
> > etching by
> > ground chemicals? Just my unlearned opinion. David
> >
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Morris
> > Hankins
> > <joshalso2000@y...> wrote:
> > > Is anyone aware of a 1786 NJ 23r that is cast ?
> > >
> > > Or, could someone take a look at the enclosed and
> > tell
> > > what caused this type of effect?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Morris
> > >
> > >
> > >
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