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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: 1786 NJ 23r - Cast ?
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From: Morris Hankins <joshalso2000@yahoo.com>
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Ray, thank you for the response. I know this coin is
not cast.
However, I do not understand how some of the build up
occurred and whether the corroded metal actually
stabilzied and built up on the coin.
Maybe someone can refer a suitable reference for
corrosion effects on coins and coppers in specific.
Thanks
Morris
--- Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:
> Hey Morris,
> There's no stupid questions on this group except
> for the ones not asked.
> I have not personally run across any 23-R's that
> were cast. BUT I haven't
> paid a lot of attention to counterfeit NJ's and it's
> difficult to tell
> whether a cast is contemporary or modern. I'm
> hoping that Dan F will be
> running with this. At C4 he had stepped forward to
> start to accumulate
> information and pictures of counterfeit coins.
> Having found a few NJ's by
> metal detecting, This does look like a dug coin.
> Better than most of what
> I've pulled out of the ground. I think that Charles
> Smith would be a good
> person to inquire to if you think this coin is cast.
> I know Phil Mossman
> has an interest in cast coins too.
> We should know what each other's interests are.
> I occassionally see
> something on ebay or hear of something I think
> unusual, and send an email to
> a friend that specializes in that area. Back to the
> NJ Census - I need to
> mail it first thing in the AM and I can't get
> several individules on the
> phone.
>
> Ray W
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Morris Hankins" <joshalso2000@yahoo.com>
> To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: 1786 NJ 23r
> - Cast ?
>
>
> > There were two questions. Neither linked. The
> second
> > was a request for info on coin pictured.
> >
> > There was an article written by one of the
> gentlemen
> > of this group concerning cast New Jerseys. Was
> there
> > a 23r Cast?
> >
> > I have a complete set of CNL's coming but don't
> have
> > them yet. When I get them I will not bother
> asking
> > what some people apparently consider stupid
> questions.
> >
> > Morris
> >
> >
> > --- "Clement V. Schettino" <CopperClem@attbi.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Thank you David.
> > >
> > > Clem
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dp1787 <palmers4@erols.com>
> > > [mailto:palmers4@erols.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:17 PM
> > > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: 1786 NJ 23r
> -
> > > Cast ?
> > >
> > > Morris, That is what Clem refers to as a
> grounder.
> > > It appears to
> > > have been rescued, then "conserved" to stop
> further
> > > etching by
> > > ground chemicals? Just my unlearned opinion.
> David
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Morris
> > > Hankins
> > > <joshalso2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > Is anyone aware of a 1786 NJ 23r that is cast
> ?
> > > >
> > > > Or, could someone take a look at the enclosed
> and
> > > tell
> > > > what caused this type of effect?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > Morris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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