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- From wnippe@acxiom.com Wed Feb 05 13:27:21 2003
Return-Path: <wnippe@acxiom.com> X-Sender: wnippe@acxiom.com X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 5 Feb 2003 21:27:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 14956 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 21:27:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2003 21:27:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.90) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 21:27:20 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.148] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2003 21:27:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:27:11 -0000 To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Gilding/Silvering Message-ID: <b1rvjf+eftu@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <b1rg1h+5cvf@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1910 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "higleyman <wnippe@acxiom.com>" <wnippe@acxiom.com> X-Originating-IP: 198.160.96.7 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=27580835 X-Yahoo-Profile: higleyman
I posted this once, but it apparently didn't take...
If you really want an eye-opener, look at the government that the Five Nations (six after 1722) establihed around 1570. It isn't hard to see in it legislative, judical and executive branches, an electoral college, the concept of executive veto, right of secession, etc. It was a solid confederation of sovereign states until loyalties split during the revolution. Given the 18th American obsession with freedom being the natural state of man and observation of nature, it is obvious that, if these Native concepts didn't drive the architecture of our Confederation and Constitution governments, they at least provided a comparative model that was known to have worked for more than two centuries. Plus, their use of wampum ceremonially at council raised the visibility of wampum enough for the Dutch to seize upon and corrupt (unless you buy the 'Money Speech' in Atlas Shrugged) the idea.
Will
PS: With respect to silvered/gilded 'colonials', I have an AU-58 VA 1/2d that is silvered - probably to look like a 1774 shilling, but maybe as a circulating shilling. The silvering is intact, so I suspect the former. It was done long enough ago to have acquired a nice patina. I also have a 1791 Wash. large eagle cent that is gilded. The gold is worn from its high points. I have seen at least two others like this. Could they have been done as a group for commemoration of Washington's 2nd inauguration or other event? Also have a couple of silver/brass 2R's (both 1721)
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "bkweston <bkweston@l...>" <bkweston@l...> wrote: > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "mike hodder <mhodder@t...>" > <mhodder@t...> wrote: > > Byron: > > > > Us Europeans have a lot to answer for. > > > > Mike H > > Tecnically I'm mostly German, and so probably should say no more on > that.<s> > Byron
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