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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: How Many Colonial Collectors are There?
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:53:33 -0800
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From: "THOMAS F. MADIGAN, III-" <madcoins@earthlink.net>
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I would estimate that there are about 2 dozen serious hard core NJ
collectors: guys (and a gal) who own 50+ varieties and who actively seek out
more. There are a handfull of others who already own awesome collections
and do not join in the fray any longer - mercifully!
Tom
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From: <jagre@attbi.com>
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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:38 AM
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: How Many Colonial Collectors are There?
> Actually I wasn't trying to further a 'slabs are good for bringing
> new people into the field' theory. Though for what its worth I think
> they do help reduce the intimidation factor as Dave Wnuck mentioned.
>
> My reason for posting was that I am curious about how many collectors
> the population of colonial coins can really sustain.
>
> I noted in a not so recent Bowers rare coin review that they remarked
> about a particular colonial that 'it would be more valuable and more
> sought after if it wasn't so rare'.
>
> My now infamous colonial cc project is leading me to that same
> conclusion. It seems that if anything the population of nice
> examples of a great many colonial types seems to be even smaller than
> I would have imagined, as the same few examples keep re-appearing
> through the years in different auctions.
>
> If ~30 different types have populations of 20 or less specimens I
> guess that means there can't be much more than a few dozen high end
> type collectors or they'll be a lot of fighting over those few
> coins. Actually, that sounds about right.
>
> Which is to say nothing of the populations of different varieties
> Connecticuts or NJs or Mass silver, etc.
>
> JA
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Morris Hankins
> <joshalso2000@y...> wrote:
> > Dave - don't set much store by my agreement. I am a
> > neophyte when it comes to colonials.
> >
> > Wait until the experienced and hardcore colonialists
> > check in.
> >
> > Morris
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "coinrarities <coinrarities@y...>"
> > <coinrarities@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi Morris:
> > >
> > >
> > > Whoa! You're freakin' me out! I didn't expect
> > > anyone in the chat
> > > room to agree with me about slabs.
> > >
> > >
> > > Re my definition of hard core vs. dabbler
> > > colonial collectors:
> > >
> > >
> > > HARD CORE: Have definate collecting goals in mind,
> > > even if they are
> > > dispirate (and even contridictory!). Regularly add
> > > to their library,
> > > or on-line store of knowledge.
> > >
> > >
> > > DABBLER: Will add a piece here or there if they see
> > > it, it strikes
> > > their fancy, and they have the discretionary funds.
> > > May or may not
> > > be a "club joiner".
> > >
> > > People can certainly drift from one catagory to the
> > > other over time...
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm sure others can refine these definitions.
> > >
> > > Rgds,
> > > Dave W.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Morris
> > > Hankins
> > > <joshalso2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > Dave, inclined to agree with you. I got my
> > > baptism of
> > > > fire on Large Cents. Now there is an area that
> > > really
> > > > needs cleaned up. These were not slabbed. Bob
> > > > Grellman did the attributions and grading on them
> > > and
> > > > most all were 20 points under their purported
> > > grade.
> > > >
> > > > I have a bought a few colonials that were slabbed
> > > as
> > > > it seemed that they were either undervalued and
> > > being
> > > > ignored or people were away at shows. Most of
> > > them
> > > > were fairly close on grading, but a low grade
> > > Machins
> > > > turned out to be a Ctft Brit with a hugh die crack
> > > > through the spray. They have now all been
> > > liberated.
> > > >
> > > > So yes, it will help some of the newbies get
> > > started.
> > > >
> > > > However, my question is in regards to Your PSS.
> > > > Please define your definition of hardcore and
> > > > dabblers.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Morris
> > > >
> > > > --- "coinrarities <coinrarities@y...>"
> > > > <coinrarities@y...> wrote:
> > > > > John:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sinerely,
> > > > > Dave Wnuck
> > > > >
> > > > > PPS: I guesstimate the number of hard-core
> > > colonial
> > > > > collectors at
> > > > > about 200; add in the dabblers and you get to
> > > 800 or
> > > > > so.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > "colonialcoinunion
> > > > > <jagre@a...>" <jagre@a...> wrote:
> > > > > > Looking for a rough guess - and not just the
> > > hard
> > > > > core guys, but
> > > > > > including the dabblers and the
> > > toe-in-the-water
> > > > > crowd.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the 2nd part of the question - does the
> > > > > serious hard core group
> > > > > > want to see new people coming into the
> > > 'field'?
> > > > > My sense is that
> > > > > > there is not a great deal of enthusiasm for
> > > the
> > > > > novice or newby
> > > > > > introduced to the field via, perhaps, slabbed
> > > > > items.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JA
> > > > >
> > > > >
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