| Conteúdo do artigo |
- From njraywms@optonline.net Thu Feb 20 13:34:52 2003
Return-Path: <njraywms@optonline.net>
X-Sender: njraywms@optonline.net
X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 20 Feb 2003 21:34:52 -0000
Received: (qmail 23861 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 21:34:51 -0000
Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218)
by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Feb 2003 21:34:51 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net) (167.206.5.5)
by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 21:34:51 -0000
Received: from asv8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.47])
by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net
(iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002))
with ESMTP id <0HAM0041UMLVN3@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for
colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:34:43 -0500 (EST)
Received: from DIANEJ33YVI95P (ool-43503c8e.dyn.optonline.net [67.80.60.142])
by asv8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1KLXqWx011324 for
<colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:33:52 -0500 (EST)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:38:03 -0500
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Serious
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Message-id: <0b5601c2d928$59a15620$f2fea8c0@DIANEJ33YVI95P>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000
Content-type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="Boundary_(ID_YeD3cspl0P2s9udOvvMblg)"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
References: <157.1c1c7fdb.2b868315@aol.com>
From: Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>
X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=78843690
X-Yahoo-Profile: njray2
--Boundary_(ID_YeD3cspl0P2s9udOvvMblg)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi Jeff,
You mention names of the old time (if I may) collectors. In their day, there was not a C4 or a CNL or an EAC where everyone could share information and have fun while learning. It is so much easier today - just look what is shared on egroups...
Ray W
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosaamltd@aol.com
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Serious
If you think about it, probably no more than a couple of people who are active in the hobby today knew about Taylor, Oecshner or Hessberg. How about Dr. Hinkley, Stanley Sherr, Robison and Roper? Most of these figures spent a lot of time and energy on their collection (Hessberg being the exception on this list -- he bought a box of coins and pretty much never added another colonial), but they weren't well known. Does that make them any less serious? Many collectors prefer to keep a low profile and deal exclusively through dealers....such as the mystery collector whose Fugio collection was sold in the Marshall's sale.
We do have a problem with the word serious and its definition. If coin ownership is required, then Mike Hodder is not serious, and most dealers would not qualify as serious either, since they probably don't collect all the areas that they sell (Tony T. is the exception here!). If being a scholar of the series and publishing is the criteria, then we would never consider Garrett, Norweb, Brand, Roper, Oecshner and all the rest as serious -- obviously not a smart move.
Perhaps the best definition of a serious collector is one who enjoys this aspect of the hobby and who always wants to learn more about them, either through the coins themselves or through research performed by other people. A casual collector or a type collector will probably not want to spend 3 hours reading through one of Hodder's articles on a particular New Jersey reverse die, while a serious collector -- even one that owns few if any actual examples of that coinage -- will jump at the opportunity!
And Craig....if someone wants to come in with a big check at the next C4 and buy 100 different CT coppers from me in one fell swoop, I would be MORE than happy to consider them a serious collector!
Jeff
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
ADVERTISEMENT
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
colonial-coins-unsubscribe@egroups.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
--Boundary_(ID_YeD3cspl0P2s9udOvvMblg)
Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> You mention names of the old
time (if I may) collectors. In their day, there was not a C4 or a CNL or
an EAC where everyone could share information and have fun while learning.
It is so much easier today - just look what is shared on egroups...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray W</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Rosaamltd@aol.com
href="mailto:Rosaamltd@aol.com">Rosaamltd@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re:
Serious</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">If you think about it, probably no more than a couple of
people who are active in the hobby today knew about Taylor, Oecshner or
Hessberg. How about Dr. Hinkley, Stanley Sherr, Robison and Roper?
Most of these figures spent a lot of time and energy on their collection
(Hessberg being the exception on this list -- he bought a box of coins and
pretty much never added another colonial), but they weren't well known.
Does that make them any less serious? Many collectors prefer to keep a
low profile and deal exclusively through dealers....such as the mystery
collector whose Fugio collection was sold in the Marshall's sale.
<BR><BR>We do have a problem with the word serious and its definition.
If coin ownership is required, then Mike Hodder is not serious, and most
dealers would not qualify as serious either, since they probably don't collect
all the areas that they sell (Tony T. is the exception here!). If being
a scholar of the series and publishing is the criteria, then we would never
consider Garrett, Norweb, Brand, Roper, Oecshner and all the rest as serious
-- obviously not a smart move.<BR><BR>Perhaps the best definition of a serious
collector is one who enjoys this aspect of the hobby and who always wants to
learn more about them, either through the coins themselves or through research
performed by other people. A casual collector or a type collector will
probably not want to spend 3 hours reading through one of Hodder's articles on
a particular New Jersey reverse die, while a serious collector -- even one
that owns few if any actual examples of that coinage -- will jump at the
opportunity!<BR><BR>And Craig....if someone wants to come in with a big check
at the next C4 and buy 100 different CT coppers from me in one fell swoop, I
would be MORE than happy to consider them a serious
collector!<BR><BR>Jeff</FONT> <BR><BR><TT>To
unsubscribe from this group, send an email
to:<BR>colonial-coins-unsubscribe@egroups.com<BR><BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>Your use
of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <A
href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</A>.</TT>
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>
--Boundary_(ID_YeD3cspl0P2s9udOvvMblg)--
|
|---|
