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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:16:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Colonial Registry Set
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Tom,
You definitely have a way with words. It was only a matter of time that NGC would slab colonials. It's just business. You can't let your competition have something that you don't. NGC is supposed to at least attribute the colonials. I don't know who they have for this purpose but hopefully they know what they're doing. I told a friend of mine that works at NGC that all it takes is a few mistakes to lose credibility. When Federal coins can be graded at several each minute, I wonder if it will be cost effective to attribute colonials - it could take a long time to attribute a CT 1787 33. Time will tell...
Ray
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From: THOMAS F. MADIGAN, III-
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Colonial Registry Set
Too true...too true...
"Authentic Historic Heirloom Americana lovingly encased in plastic for your viewing pleasure and certified as being one of the very finest left in existance, only $19.99 a month for the next 20 years..Order yours now!! LIMITED SUPPLY........blah blah"
Make you wanna PUKE!
Tom
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Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Colonial Registry Set
In a message dated 2/28/03 8:55:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, jagre@attbi.com writes:
There just aren't enough colonials to go
around to fuel registry fanaticism and I can't really imagine bidding
wars over 'finest slabbed' AU53 coppers
JA............How easy is it to forget the 1963 or 64 "or whatever it was" Lincoln cent graded MS-70 and sold for $37,000.00 to the registry! Believe me there are enough Colonials to go around and you will see them come out of the woodwork once rediculous prices are realized. Greed has many forms and I truly am disgusted with PCGS, NGC and the whole batch of those "con-artist"!
The slabbing companies have no desire to help in identifying and grading Colonial Coins........Hell the "morons" can't even tell the difference between a copy of a 1793 Liberty Cap cent from the real thing. Bottom line: dealers with big bucks will find another avenue to exploit numismatics and the true collectors will suffer for it. Yes in an open auction competition can be very competitive amongst Colonial collectors but don't forget these collectors saw the coin in the "raw" and knew what they were bidding on......hence a rise in prices realized.
I find the grading services about the most disgusting aspect of numismatics outside of "Bullet Sales" or better yet "Teletrade"!
Next we will be seeing our most endeared coppers gold plated and colorized on QVC.
Ray T.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> You definitely have a way with
words. It was only a matter of time that NGC would slab colonials.
It's just business. You can't let your competition have something that you
don't. NGC is supposed to at least attribute the colonials. I don't
know who they have for this purpose but hopefully they know what they're
doing. I told a friend of mine that works at NGC that all it takes is a
few mistakes to lose credibility. When Federal coins can be graded at
several each minute, I wonder if it will be cost effective to attribute
colonials - it could take a long time to attribute a CT 1787 33. Time
will tell...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=madcoins@earthlink.net href="mailto:madcoins@earthlink.net">THOMAS F.
MADIGAN, III-</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 28, 2003 11:40
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re:
Colonial Registry Set</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Too true...too true...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Authentic Historic Heirloom Americana
lovingly encased in plastic for your viewing pleasure and certified as being
one of the very finest left in existance, only $19.99 a month for the next 20
years..Order yours now!! LIMITED SUPPLY........blah blah" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Make you wanna PUKE!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rg5turc@aol.com href="mailto:rg5turc@aol.com">rg5turc@aol.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 28, 2003 5:17
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re:
Colonial Registry Set</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face="Courier New"
size=2 FAMILY="FIXED">In a message dated 2/28/03 8:55:15 AM Eastern Standard
Time, <A href="mailto:jagre@attbi.com">jagre@attbi.com</A> writes:<BR><BR>
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face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">There just aren't
enough colonials to go <BR>around to fuel registry fanaticism and I can't
really imagine bidding <BR>wars over 'finest slabbed' AU53
coppers</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Courier New" color=#000000 size=2
FAMILY="FIXED"><BR>JA............How easy is it to forget the 1963 or 64 "or
whatever it was" Lincoln cent graded MS-70 and sold for $37,000.00 to the
registry! Believe me there are enough Colonials to go around and you
will see them come out of the woodwork once rediculous prices are
realized. Greed has many forms and I truly am disgusted with PCGS, NGC
and the whole batch of those "con-artist"!<BR><BR>The slabbing companies
have no desire to help in identifying and grading Colonial Coins........Hell
the "morons" can't even tell the difference between a copy of a 1793 Liberty
Cap cent from the real thing. Bottom line: dealers with big bucks will
find another avenue to exploit numismatics and the true collectors will
suffer for it. Yes in an open auction competition can be very
competitive amongst Colonial collectors but don't forget these collectors
saw the coin in the "raw" and knew what they were bidding on......hence a
rise in prices realized.<BR><BR>I find the grading services about the most
disgusting aspect of numismatics outside of "Bullet Sales" or better yet
"Teletrade"!<BR><BR>Next we will be seeing our most endeared coppers gold
plated and colorized on QVC.<BR><BR>Ray T.</FONT> <BR><BR><TT>To unsubscribe
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