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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 14:12:55 -0000
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Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Cameras for coins
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Wow! We don't hear from you often Roy, but when we do..... Thanks,
Now I have to go looking for that Photoshop Elements 2. I really
need to be able to "stitch" the photos of obv/rev together. David
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Bonjour"
<r.bonjour@w...> wrote:
> Ray brought up an exceptionally important fact. A camera will be
advertised
> as 10X zoom. This is very misleading because it is arrived at by
multiplying
> the optical (lens) zoom by the digital zoom. The digital zoom
should never
> be used because it degrades the quality of the picture.
>
> I've read the word "Photoshop" frequently over the months and I
believe it
> should be modified. Photoshop is the best image program made; it
is also
> the most difficult to learn. It also does things that you will
never be
> interested in as it was made for professionals. With this in mind,
Photoshop
> came out with what I think, is the best program for the novice:
Photoshop
> Elements 2. The program lists for $99 and is frequently discounted
with
> rebates. Last year I posted that Amazon.com was selling it under
$50 (not
> now). You can do everything that you will need with this program.
It has
> received top reviews throughout the industry. It also has "dumbed"
many of
> the most important adjustments needed in digital photography. We
have yet
> to reach the point where the camera will turn out a perfect
picture.
>
> As most of you have said: "It's the lighting stupid, the
lighting." This is
> the key and the best way is buy a light or 2 and play with it. You
learn by
> doing. The best part of the digital camera is it doesn't cost
anything to
> take a bad picture. Each coin is unique and the lighting has to
fit the
> subject (but certain positions will work well for almost all
coins.)
>
> Now I must take exception with the pixel count. 2,3,4,5,6, etc.
all depends
> on what you want to do with the results. The higher the number the
larger
> picture you can PRINT. To take a picture of a coin and stay within
the 8 X
> 10 range you can easily use a 4 meg camera and get top pictures.
I've been
> using digital camera for a long time. My present camera was an
Olympus 460
> with a 1.3 megapixels. (I bought it when the industry was just
coming out
> with a 2 megapxel camera). I used the word was, because it just
dropped
> dead. I've owned 2 Olympus digital cameras and the results have
been more
> than satisfactory, but they both broke, so I would not recommend
them.
> Sharp pictures are also the product of a good lens. Large pixel
count and a
> so so lens gives you so so results. Almost all digital camera
allow close
> focus, but enough!
> Roy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Williams" <njraywms@o...>
> To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Cameras for coins
>
>
> > Roger and Roger,
> > Zooming in to get a picture of the date is better done with
an optical
> > zoom rather than a digital zoom. Digitally zooming in looks as
though the
> > pixels get larger, and when you zoom too far, it's like looking
at a
> > newspaper photograph with a magnifying glass - all you see is a
lot of
> dots.
> > Maybe with the newer megapixel cameras this isn't as bad as it
was with
> the
> > earlier cameras.
> > Ray W
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "mantoloking2002" <rogersiboni@a...>
> > To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 12:39 AM
> > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Cameras for coins
> >
> >
> > > Yes,
> > >
> > > But you can also acheive this (perhaps better) with software.
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Roger Moore
> > > <rogermoore435@y...> wrote:
> > > > Thanks Roger. Can you get close ups, such as just the
> > > > date with the camera? Roger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- mantoloking2002 <rogersiboni@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Roger,
> > > > >
> > > > > I own a Nikon Cool Pix 990PF. It has a lot of bells
> > > > > and whistles I
> > > > > don't use and while Nikon has advanced the
> > > > > technology a bit, it still
> > > > > works just fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have to agree with Marcus though. I suspect most
> > > > > digital Cameras at
> > > > > a certain quality level will work just fine. What I
> > > > > have found to be
> > > > > far far more important is lighting, filters,
> > > > > background and the
> > > > > tripod or mount you you use. Also how you edit the
> > > > > image with
> > > > > PhotoShop. Speaking as a beginer, I was amazed how
> > > > > these latter items
> > > > > are what really make the difference.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger S.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Roger Moore
> > > > > <rogermoore435@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > I surrender!! I spent the afternoon at a camera
> > > > > show
> > > > > > with every intention of buying a digital camera
> > > > > for
> > > > > > taking pictures of coins. I wanted the ability to
> > > > > > take nice single shots of a coin, as seen so often
> > > > > on
> > > > > > this site, and get even closer shots of defects on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > date or some other detail on the coin. I was over
> > > > > > whelmed with information and detail and at the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > time did not seem to be getting any answers to
> > > > > > questions that I was asking (perhaps my questions
> > > > > were
> > > > > > just wrong). Evidently digital video cameras can
> > > > > take
> > > > > > close ups better when used in a single shot mode
> > > > > than
> > > > > > single shot cameras? SLR is better but more
> > > > > expensive
> > > > > > than non SLR? etc?
> > > > > > Sooo, my question to you is very specific. To
> > > > > each of
> > > > > > you that are posting such great pictures, what
> > > > > exactly
> > > > > > do you use??? And if you had to buy a new camera,
> > > > > > what whould you be thinking of getting? Why?
> > > > > > I admit that I am pretty much lost when talking to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > sales people. I don't know what is truth and what
> > > > > is
> > > > > > hype. Thanks Roger
> > > > > >
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