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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 15:55:35 -0000
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Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Cameras for coins
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Roger, Nobody else collects that silver stuff!<bg> David
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "mantoloking2002"
<rogersiboni@a...> wrote:
> Roger M.
>
> I agree about a session or even a workshop at C-4. I would really
> enjoy a discussion of what has worked and what has not. Also a
> discussion about making plates. I have put together a few, but I
> would enjoy hearing about how others have conceptualized and
executed
> their plates. Finally, shooting silver coins! Copper comes out
pretty
> nice with good lighting, but Mass Silver, Silver St. Pats etc.
have
> me challenged.
>
> Roger S.
>
> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Roger Moore
> <rogermoore435@y...> wrote:
> > Roy, Thank you for your informative discussion. It
> > will help me. It also occurs to me that there is an
> > incredible depth of knowledge about cameras and their
> > accessories in our small group. I for one would think
> > a symposium on colonial coin picture taking at some
> > future C-4 club meeting would be a great idea. I
> > stress "colonial" picture taking because I think it is
> > harder to get good images of these coins than other
> > types of coins. Just a thought for agenda makers.
> > Roger
> >
> >
> > --- Roy Bonjour <r.bonjour@w...> wrote:
> > > Ray brought up an exceptionally important fact. A
> > > camera will be advertised
> > > as 10X zoom. This is very misleading because it is
> > > arrived at by multiplying
> > > the optical (lens) zoom by the digital zoom. The
> > > digital zoom should never
> > > be used because it degrades the quality of the
> > > picture.
> > >
> > > I've read the word "Photoshop" frequently over the
> > > months and I believe it
> > > should be modified. Photoshop is the best image
> > > program made; it is also
> > > the most difficult to learn. It also does things
> > > that you will never be
> > > interested in as it was made for professionals. With
> > > this in mind, Photoshop
> > > came out with what I think, is the best program for
> > > the novice: Photoshop
> > > Elements 2. The program lists for $99 and is
> > > frequently discounted with
> > > rebates. Last year I posted that Amazon.com was
> > > selling it under $50 (not
> > > now). You can do everything that you will need with
> > > this program. It has
> > > received top reviews throughout the industry. It
> > > also has "dumbed" many of
> > > the most important adjustments needed in digital
> > > photography. We have yet
> > > to reach the point where the camera will turn out a
> > > perfect picture.
> > >
> > > As most of you have said: "It's the lighting stupid,
> > > the lighting." This is
> > > the key and the best way is buy a light or 2 and
> > > play with it. You learn by
> > > doing. The best part of the digital camera is it
> > > doesn't cost anything to
> > > take a bad picture. Each coin is unique and the
> > > lighting has to fit the
> > > subject (but certain positions will work well for
> > > almost all coins.)
> > >
> > > Now I must take exception with the pixel count.
> > > 2,3,4,5,6, etc. all depends
> > > on what you want to do with the results. The higher
> > > the number the larger
> > > picture you can PRINT. To take a picture of a coin
> > > and stay within the 8 X
> > > 10 range you can easily use a 4 meg camera and get
> > > top pictures. I've been
> > > using digital camera for a long time. My present
> > > camera was an Olympus 460
> > > with a 1.3 megapixels. (I bought it when the
> > > industry was just coming out
> > > with a 2 megapxel camera). I used the word was,
> > > because it just dropped
> > > dead. I've owned 2 Olympus digital cameras and the
> > > results have been more
> > > than satisfactory, but they both broke, so I would
> > > not recommend them.
> > > Sharp pictures are also the product of a good lens.
> > > Large pixel count and a
> > > so so lens gives you so so results. Almost all
> > > digital camera allow close
> > > focus, but enough!
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ray Williams" <njraywms@o...>
> > > To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:21 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Cameras for
> > > coins
> > >
> > >
> > > > Roger and Roger,
> > > > Zooming in to get a picture of the date is
> > > better done with an optical
> > > > zoom rather than a digital zoom. Digitally
> > > zooming in looks as though the
> > > > pixels get larger, and when you zoom too far, it's
> > > like looking at a
> > > > newspaper photograph with a magnifying glass - all
> > > you see is a lot of
> > > dots.
> > > > Maybe with the newer megapixel cameras this isn't
> > > as bad as it was with
> > > the
> > > > earlier cameras.
> > > > Ray W
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "mantoloking2002" <rogersiboni@a...>
> > > > To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 12:39 AM
> > > > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Cameras for
> > > coins
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yes,
> > > > >
> > > > > But you can also acheive this (perhaps better)
> > > with software.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Roger
> > > Moore
> > > > > <rogermoore435@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks Roger. Can you get close ups, such as
> > > just the
> > > > > > date with the camera? Roger
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- mantoloking2002 <rogersiboni@a...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Roger,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I own a Nikon Cool Pix 990PF. It has a lot
> > > of bells
> > > > > > > and whistles I
> > > > > > > don't use and while Nikon has advanced the
> > > > > > > technology a bit, it still
> > > > > > > works just fine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have to agree with Marcus though. I
> > > suspect most
> > > > > > > digital Cameras at
> > > > > > > a certain quality level will work just fine.
> > > What I
> > > > > > > have found to be
> > > > > > > far far more important is lighting, filters,
> > > > > > > background and the
> > > > > > > tripod or mount you you use. Also how you
> > > edit the
> > > > > > > image with
> > > > > > > PhotoShop. Speaking as a beginer, I was
> > > amazed how
> > > > > > > these latter items
> > > > > > > are what really make the difference.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Roger S.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com,
> > > Roger Moore
> > > > > > > <rogermoore435@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I surrender!! I spent the afternoon at a
> > > camera
> > > > > > > show
> > > > > > > > with every intention of buying a digital
> > > camera
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > taking pictures of coins. I wanted the
> > > ability to
> > > > > > > > take nice single shots of a coin, as seen
> > > so often
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > this site, and get even closer shots of
> > > defects on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > date or some other detail on the coin. I
> > > was over
> > > > > > > > whelmed with information and detail and at
> > > the
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > time did not seem to be getting any
> > > answers to
> > > > > > > > questions that I was asking (perhaps my
> > > questions
> > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > just wrong). Evidently digital video
> > > cameras can
> > > > > > > take
> > > > > > > > close ups better when used in a single
> > > shot mode
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > single shot cameras? SLR is better but
> > > more
> > > > > > > expensive
> > > > > > > > than non SLR? etc?
> > > > > > > > Sooo, my question to you is very specific.
> > > To
> > > > > > > each of
> > > > > > > > you that are posting such great pictures,
> > > what
> > > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > > > do you use??? And if you had to buy a new
> > > camera,
> > > > > > > > what whould you be thinking of getting?
> > > Why?
> > > > > > > > I admit that I am pretty much lost when
> > > talking to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > sales people. I don't know what is truth
> > > and what
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > hype. Thanks Roger
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > __________________________________
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> > >
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> >
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