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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Net Grading Nightmare
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:50:27 -0400
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From: "Roy Bonjour" <r.bonjour@worldnet.att.net>
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Roger:And where would the "cats-meow" fit in? (I'm showing my
generation.)Roy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Moore" <rogermoore435@yahoo.com>
To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Net Grading Nightmare
> Stan, This string of messages is beginning to thin.
> In order to perk it up, I will indicate that less than
> perfect coins should be called - cats!! Roger
>
>
> --- Stan Stephens <sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu> wrote:
> > I have heard Jim Long (JEL coins)use the P-I-G word
> > to describe coins he
> > owned and had for sale. Its hard to make a counter
> > comment.
> > Stan
> >
> > jkraljevich wrote:
> > >
> > > Unless anyone has a pet pig, I've always been
> > partial to that term
> > > for a particularly ugly copper.
> > >
> > > To paraphrase Animal House, ?that coin is a P-I-G
> > pig.?
> > >
> > > Of course, if you do have a pet pig, perhaps this
> > is not the place
> > > for a confession.
> > >
> > > JK
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Roger Moore
> > > ?rogermoore435@y...? wrote:
> > > ? Ray, I hope we are good enogh friends for you
> > to know
> > > ? when I am pulling your leg!! Roger
> > > ?
> > > ?
> > > ? --- Ray Williams ?njraywms@o...? wrote:
> > > ? ? Roger,
> > > ? ? If you like dogs so much, we should swap
> > > ? ? collections ?BG?. Maybe it may
> > > ? ? have been a poor choice of words, but all knew
> > what
> > > ? ? I meant. I will attempt
> > > ? ? to keep this in mind when I describe coins in
> > the
> > > ? ? future that are much less
> > > ? ? than beautiful. ?s?
> > > ? ? Ray W
> > > ? ? ----- Original Message -----
> > > ? ? From: ?Roger Moore? ?rogermoore435@y...?
> > > ? ? To: ?colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com?
> > > ? ? Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:31 AM
> > > ? ? Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Net
> > Grading
> > > ? ? Nightmare
> > > ? ?
> > > ? ?
> > > ? ? ? I object to the use of the word ?dog? in a
> > > ? ? derogatory
> > > ? ? ? manner. Dogs are God's gift from heaven. I
> > have
> > > ? ? ? never met a dog I didn't like - even ones
> > that
> > > ? ? bite
> > > ? ? ? coins!!! Roger
> > > ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? --- Ray Williams ?njraywms@o...? wrote:
> > > ? ? ? ? Now we're on the same page. That I agree
> > to.
> > > ? ? ? ? Colonial collectors have the
> > > ? ? ? ? best attitudes about the hobby and their
> > coins
> > > ? ? and
> > > ? ? ? ? the coins of others. I
> > > ? ? ? ? have never shown any of my coins to others
> > and
> > > ? ? heard
> > > ? ? ? ? a negative comment.
> > > ? ? ? ? With the exception of one or two, I think
> > that
> > > ? ? over
> > > ? ? ? ? 90% of us have coins in
> > > ? ? ? ? our collections that are real ?dogs? to
> > look at,
> > > ? ? but
> > > ? ? ? ? we don't belittle
> > > ? ? ? ? others coins and there's always something
> > to
> > > ? ? like
> > > ? ? ? ? about every colonial.
> > > ? ? ? ? Ray W
> > > ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ----- Original Message -----
> > > ? ? ? ? From: ?John Lorenzo? ?johnmenc@o...?
> > > ? ? ? ? To: ?colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com?
> > > ? ? ? ? Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:34 PM
> > > ? ? ? ? Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Net
> > Grading
> > > ? ? ? ? Nightmare
> > > ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ? All I can say to this Ray as I can not
> > > ? ? remember an
> > > ? ? ? ? EAC meeting at any
> > > ? ? ? ? ? convention when the subject matter did
> > not
> > > ? ? involve
> > > ? ? ? ? grading to some
> > > ? ? ? ? ? degree. Instead of talking coins is
> > always
> > > ? ? ? ? grading-grading-grading.
> > > ? ? ? ? ? When an EAC person picks up a large cent
> > its
> > > ? ? ? ? usually ?what is wrong
> > > ? ? ? ? ? with this coin.? I can only speak for
> > myself -
> > > ? ? ? ? when I pick up a
> > > ? ? ? ? ? colonial its ?What is GOOD about this
> > coin!?
> > > ? ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ? Now its NUFF SAID!!!
> > > ? ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ? --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com,
> > Ray
> > > ? ? ? ? Williams ?njraywms@o...?
> > > ? ? ? ? ? wrote:
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? I was a little afraid of this
> > happening...
> > > ? ? I
> > > ? ? ? ? was hoping to avoid
> > > ? ? ? ? ? specifics
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? of the difficulties experienced in EAC
> > > ? ? grading
> > > ? ? ? ? over the years. I
> > > ? ? ? ? ? wanted to
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? just use general concerns from EAC
> > grading
> > > ? ? and
> > > ? ? ? ? try not to fall into
> > > ? ? ? ? ? the same
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? pits. We should learn from what
> > others have
> > > ? ? ? ? done, whether positive
> > > ? ? ? ? ? or
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? negative lessons. This is not my
> > egroup so
> > > ? ? I
> > > ? ? ? ? can't determine
> > > ? ? ? ? ? what's said or
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? not said on these posts. But I would
> > be
> > > ? ? ? ? offended if C4 problems
> > > ? ? ? ? ? were
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? discussed in detail on the EAC egroup
> > and we
> > > ? ? ? ? weren't a part of it.
> > > ? ? ? ? ? So if
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? there's no objections, can we make
> > reference
> > > ? ? to
> > > ? ? ? ? the general EAC
> > > ? ? ? ? ? grading when
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? we're making comparisons... I'll say
> > no
> > > ? ? more -
> > > ? ? ? ? as Rob would
> > > ? ? ? ? ? say, ?Nuff
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? Said?.
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? Ray W
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ----- Original Message -----
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? From: ?John Lorenzo? ?johnmenc@o...?
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? To: ?colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com?
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:09 PM
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re:
> > Net
> > > ? ? Grading
> > > ? ? ? ? Nightmare
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The net grade becomes a problem
> > because
> > > ? ? each
> > > ? ? ? ? ?individual? will
> > > ? ? ? ? ? reduce
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? a coin a certain amount numerically
> > with
> > > ? ? no
> > > ? ? ? ? constant set of
> > > ? ? ? ? ? factors
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? in place for this reduction other
> > than the
> > > ? ? net
> > > ? ? ? ? grader's opinion.
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Noyes hated porosity and I had seen
> > VF-20
> > > ? ? ? ? Large Cents coins
> > > ? ? ? ? ? reduced
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? to G-6 levels simply due to
> > porosity. I
> > > ? ? know I
> > > ? ? ? ? BOUGHT a few. Which
> > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? was good for me and bad for the
> > consigner.
> > > ? ? ? ? Anywhere else it was a
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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