Byron - sometimes its never easy Public Deposited
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion, I suppose.
I think the bottom line here John is that we are never going to know
where or when many of the counterfeits were made, and blindly
assigning them provenance based on nothing more than wishful thinking
doesn't help matters.
That AJ found his in with some so-called Blacksmiths is irrelivant,
to say the least. BTW, why wasn't his "AK-47" included in your
census? I notice that he doesn't call it that.
A lot of these puported "Blacksmiths" that have suddenly been
discovered over the last couple of decades or so are also based on
nothing more than this same wishful thinking, and to associate your
piece with those doesn't make it any more relivant.
On the other hand we all know where the genuine pieces came from, no
matter how worn they are.
The question is would I or anyone else buy your coin or Bill's based
soley on these baseless assumptions. I certainly would not.
Yes, let's see if XRF can tell us anything about these coins.
Byron
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "John Lorenzo" <johnmenc@o...>
wrote:
> See the enclosed post from Cobwright:
>
> I have that piece and it has never struck me as contemporary, in
fact
> I would say it definitely is not. Struck forgeries of that type are
> surely post 1750. It also does not look British, and often look is
> all we can go on in the same way that we may talk about an unsigned
> work attributed to a famous artist.
> And something interesting just occurred to me... I got mine out of
a
> junk box (10p!) with several Canadian blacksmiths pieces. If I was
> asked for my opinion I would say the piece could well be 1820's.
> Cat amongst the pigeon time...
> I think almost certainly all William III contemporary forgeries are
> white metal or cast or both
> Alan
>
> Byron - Why did Cob have to cherrypick his AK-47 out of a box of
> Canadian Blacksmiths???
>
> Still - I am certain its of the monarch we discussed. Is this
another
> 1910 Howland Wood W-33 phenomenon happening in 2003!
>
> Still its about 1.5 mm thick. Some thick flan types of Blacksmiths
> with regular Wood #'s do get that thick.
>
> Lets see what XRF data tells us in November. Blacksmiths usually
are
> not 98% pure copper as Evasions or English halfpence but with a
> higher impurities based on some preliminary crude type analyses I
did
> on these issues with Roger Moore prior to my C2R study. - 2003-09-17
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