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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:22:47 -0000
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Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: JPL HMMMMM (more complete)
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Let's not get Hodder's blood pressure up again. The Hatfield's
were "almost" at par with the Ogden's in this area in terms of
stature. No need to send a negro slave anywhere to steal halfpence
blank planchets since the Hatfield's had plenty of POUNDS. I will
examine what WTA has and see what "pan's out." In the interim I will
also take a closer look at Cornelius II Hatfield.
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray Williams <njraywms@o...>
wrote:
> John,
> If the "rumor" of this negro slave stealing planchets from
Rahway to
> make NJs is true, then the counterfeits made should be pretty close
to full
> weight...
> Ray W
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Lorenzo" <jlorenzo@o...>
> To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:26 PM
> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: JPL HMMMMM (more complete)
>
>
> > I will proceed with caution with the M.70 contemporary
counterfeits
> > (contemporaries)...its just that I never really explored this
niche
> > before...since I always associated Hatfield with Staten Island and
> > that M.54-k nonsense...however South Elizabethtown is another
> > matter...let's just say can't it can't hurt to take a serious
> > look...I mean we are talking about the Elizabethtown Hatfield's
> > here...not just some guy with a negro slave...
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "mike hodder"
<mhodder@m...>
> > wrote:
> > > JPL:
> > >
> > > What contemporaries? An old dude named Hatfield who told
someone he
> > made dies?
> > > Remember the other old dude who told someone Mould worked in
> > Birmingham? On
> > > the strength of the latter we got Breen's attribution of the C
> > reverse to Wyon. On the
> > > strength of the former we got his creation of the Hatfield Mint.
> > Remember another old
> > > dude who said Machin made coins with plows on them? That created
> > the Machin-
> > > Mould connection which Breen cemented with horseshoe shaped
U's. We
> > know Mould
> > > was in America long before 1786. We know that Hatfield was a
> > relative of Ogden's on
> > > the female side, I believe. We know that Machin subcontracted to
> > make VTs and the
> > > landscape ones have plows on them. My point? Beware finding
things
> > that "must
> > > exist" because some old dude said they did. Including this old
dude.
> > >
> > > Mike H
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "John Lorenzo"
> > <jlorenzo@o...> wrote:
> > > > WTA has extra information on Hatfield of South Elizabethtown,
NJ.
> > > > There is enough information here to taken a "second" look
since a
> > > > missing mint must exist to explain the contemporaries. I like
> > this
> > > > one "better" than the New York one....for NOW.
> >
> >
> >
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> > - 2003-10-22
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