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From: "Clement V. Schettino" <copperclem@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Grading
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They are usually filled and filled.

Clem

-----Original Message-----
From: Clement V. Schettino [mailto:copperclem@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:43 PM
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Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Grading

I have seen on a few occasions a tiny hole drilled in the edge at K12 for
suspension.

At least once on a Fugio.

Beware

Clem

-----Original Message-----
From: palmers4@erols.com [mailto:palmers4@erols.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:34 PM
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You are assuming that the coins that we collect( Colonials??!!) were struck
in collars. Mostly, as I understand it, they were not. David

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From: Steve taxi_steve929@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 23:03:38 -0000
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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Grading

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That's a great point Gord. 
If I sound unducated in this area, it is only because I am. 
Not a strike expert//tekkie...here goes... 
Do collars get old and beat up whre you canhave new dies but old 
collars affecting the edge??? 
 
ouch, 
steve 
 
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Gord Nichols" <gnichols@c...> 
wrote: 
> Robert 
> It is a real good way to get a true impression of the piece's 
actual grade though. You needn't wait for an "expert" to codify. The 
two sides can look poor but if the edge still has sharp shear marks 
and corners from being punched out as a flan then you know the dies 
were worn and not the coin. On the other hand I've seen people pay 
for wonderful "lustrous" coins with truly worn out and banged up 
edges. 
> Gord 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: William Smith 
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:24 PM 
> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Grading 
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> 
> Agreed. But so far, grading for edges has not been codified. 
> 
> 
> "Clement V. Schettino" <copperclem@c...> wrote: 
> Actually there are three sides to every coin, and you would do 
well to look at them all. 
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> 
> Clem 
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: William Smith [mailto:nutmeg06093@y...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:11 PM 
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [C olonial Numismatics] Grading 
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> 
> I also think that a grade is essential to each side, often 
times they are congruent, but often times, they are not, especially 
in the colonial world. 
> 
> 
> 
> When the issue is 'condition census,' I would argue that 
condition is the average grade of two sides, or net grade, e.g., 
using the 70 point scale, (XF 40+ VF 20)/2 = VF 30 net. 
> 
> But, because grading standards and measurements can be very 
subjective, this is all academic to the credence buy it if you like 
it. 
> 
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> 
> After all, there are two sides to every coin/story. 
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> 
> Robert Laviana 
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> --- Original Message ----- 
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> From: Steve 
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> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com 
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:21 PM 
> 
> Subject : Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Grading 
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> 
> Does anyone agree with me that grades should always be split 
Obv/Rev 
> as opposed to ONLY one grade for the entire coin.....I could 
own a 
> coin with a perfect mint state obverse that someone took a nail 
to on 
> the reverse....this coin could be light years better on the 
obverse 
> than the highest condition census coin but because of the 
reverse 
> damage, people have to look at an inferior obverse as the 
number one 
> coin. (which it is overall, but not taken seperately) 
> 
> steve 
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