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From: Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
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David,
The last General standing is the winning General. The Confederacy did =
have some great military minds, Lee being the best, but Grant and his offic=
ers eventually proved through ability and resources that they were part of =
the superior army. Down South the Civil War is known as the Battle to Pres=
erve State Rights and up North it is known as the Battle for the Preservati=
on of the Union. If any of you are at a convention where EAC Dealer Steve =
Ellsworth (nice guy) has a table, he always enjoys good discussions about t=
he Civil War. He has some nice colonials too.=20=20
David, I'm still waiting for your Troop to camp at Quail Hill Scout Res=
ervation and do the Battle of Monmouth Hike. It's close enough where I mig=
ht be able to join you at your campfire...
Ray
----- Original Message -----=20
From: palmers4@erols.com=20
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
Ray, There is Fort A.P. HILL where the National Boy Scout jamboree is hal=
d
every 4 years. I believe he as well as Jackson were "winning" generals, f=
or
years, just didn't end up winning. David
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:40:48 -0500
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
Robert,
I remember Tank Hill well. Our unit was Charlie -1-1. I learned a l=
ot
in those 8 weeks. Then off to Benning and Gordon. Were all these Forts
named after Confederate Generals? They should be named after some winnin=
g
generals <BG>
Ray
----- Original Message -----=20
From: William Smith=20
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
Ray,
I went through FT Jackson also; 'Tank Hill.' I think they bulldozed th=
em
down for the newer units, the ones with 'air conditioning' and bigger
latrines (instead of the one shower per 60 soldiers). Fun was.
Robert Laviana
Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:
Steve,
I'm the same way with the optomotrist - the last time I had an ey=
e
exam
was at Fort Jackson, SC back in '72. I'm getting along okay with the=
se
drug
store reading glasses but I think I'll appreciate coins much more if =
I
got a
prescription pair of reading glasses.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Frank" <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
> Ray,
> This must have been around the time their silverware
> was disapearing as I remember the news articles of the
> missing forks and spoons quite well.
>
> Just kidding Ray,
> I think its time to pack and head out....Just spending
> the nite and getting tests done...nothing major that I
> know of...but costly none the less...fist time i've
> seen a doctor in 20 years...I think I'm due for my
> checkup...at least I'm pretty sure you supposed to get
> a thourough checkup every 20 years...
>
> Good night all,
> If I don't make it, someone bring a ouiji board to the
> next C4 convention and I'll try to contact you...
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:
> > Steve,
> > I was in his house many times - he was a down to
> > earth real person.
> > Ray
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve
> > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:22 PM
> > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and
> > books
> >
> >
> > I sit corrected Ray, God knows I heard him and his
> > agriculture guy
> > say it enough on TV commercials....I used to ask
> > why the NJ Governor
> > and one of his henchmen have Boston accents.....he
> > was actually a
> > very likable Governor no matter which side of the
> > fence you stood...
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray
> > Williams <njraywms@o...>
> > wrote:
> > > Steve,
> > > You had it backwards... It should read:
> > "New Jerseys and you,
> > perfect together." For non-Jerseyans, this is a
> > take off on a
> > promotional phrase used by a past governor (Tom
> > Kean) to promote
> > tourism and the state in general. I think he
> > pronounced perfect
> > as "puhfect" <BG>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Steve
> > > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 3:40 PM
> > > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey
> > and books
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Ray,
> > > This is on top of my to do list...as I think I
> > would enjoy both.
> > >
> > > Definitely top of list for next book...thanks
> > Ray
> > >
> > > Roger S., I know Mantoloking is one of those 1
> > or 2 block
> > > towns...Normandy etc...but I don't remember it
> > being in
> > > Connecticut...as a matter of fact....I sort of
> > remember it being
> > in
> > > Horse Head country..the Heart of Jersey....
> > >
> > > "You and New Jersey's, Perfect Together"
> > >
> > > To out of staters, that last quote makes no
> > sense...
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray
> > Williams
> > <njraywms@o...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Steve,
> > > > I just received the new book I
> > purchased, "The Copper
> > Coinage
> > > of the State of New Jersey". It is the
> > annotated manuscript of
> > Damon
> > > Douglas edited by Gary Trutgen. I highly
> > recommend it! Book info
> > is
> > > attached. But along with the book came two
> > lengthy catalogs for
> > > books on various topics. There is a book your
> > friend might be
> > > interested in:
> > > >
> > > > Severed Heads: British Beheadings Through
> > the Ages
> > > > by Geoffrey Abbott
> > > > For many, the highlight of a guided tour of
> > the Tower of London
> > is
> > > Tower Green, the site of the scaffolds on
> > which Anne Boleyn, Lady
> > > Jane Grey and many others, before and after,
> > met their end. This
> > > book, written by a retired Yeoman Warder from
> > the Tower, presents
> > a
> > > morbid but entertaining anthology of one
> > hundred of the thousands
> > of
> > > men and women who fell victim to the axe or
> > sword (or the Halifax
> > > Gibbet or the Scottish Maiden). The entries,
> > arranged
> > > chronologically, also look at the victims'
> > alleged crimes, any
> > last
> > > words and the disposal of the body and head,
> > often on spikes on
> > > London Bridge. A closing index lists each
> > victim, identifying the
> > > type of blade that finished them off. The
> > author clearly enjoys
> > > uncovering little known facts and anecdotes
> > and this book
> > captures
> > > his enthusiasm. 244p, 16 b/w pls (Andr=E9
> > Deutsch 2000, Pb 2003)
> > > >
> > > > ISBN 0233051279. Paperback. Price US $14.95
> > > > This is sold by Oxbow Books
> > >
> > http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/36114
> > > >
> > > > Steve,
> > > > It's my understanding that
> > counterfeiting paper, silver or
> > gold
> > > would sent you to Old Bailey, BUT
> > counterfeiting copper coins was
> > not
> > > a capital offense and just prison time or
> > possible disfiguration
> > was
> > > the penalty. It would be interesting to see
> > if any accounts of
> > > counterfeiters being executed are contained in
> > this book
> > > > Ray W
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Steve
> > > > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:58 PM
> > > > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Neil
> > 17-K in jpeg stitched
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My appoligies to William Smith who's coin
> > this is. I just got
> > > done
> > > > writing a note to a friend of mine about
> > the old bailey site
> > Ray
> > > > Williams showed us the other day. This
> > friend, "Neil" Casey,
> > is
> > > a
> > > > prosecutor and I am sure would like it,
> > howerver, I was still
> > > > thinking about him when composing this
> > letter.
> > > >
> > > > Awaiting brain transplant,
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com,
> > Steve Frank
> > > > <taxi_steve929@y...> wrote:
> > > > > For anyone who may have difficulty
> > viewing bitmap
> > > > > file, I offer Neils very nice coin in
> > Jpeg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The last General standi=
ng is the=20
winning General. The Confederacy did have some great military minds, =
Lee=20
being the best, but Grant and his officers eventually proved through abilit=
y and=20
resources that they were part of the superior army. Down South the Ci=
vil=20
War is known as the Battle to Preserve State Rights and up North it is know=
n as=20
the Battle for the Preservation of the Union. If any of you are at a=
=20
convention where EAC Dealer Steve Ellsworth (nice guy) has a table, he alwa=
ys=20
enjoys good discussions about the Civil War. He has some nice colonia=
ls=20
too. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> David, I'm still waitin=
g for=20
your Troop to camp at Quail Hill Scout Reservation and do the Battle of Mon=
mouth=20
Hike. It's close enough where I might be able to join you at your=20
campfire...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ray</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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m:</B>=20
<A title=3Dpalmers4@erols.com=20
href=3D"mailto:palmers4@erols.com">palmers4@erols.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dcolonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups=
.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:=
24=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics=
] Re:=20
Old Bailey and books</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>Ray, There is Fort A.P. HILL where the National Boy Sc=
out=20
jamboree is hald<BR>every 4 years. I believe he as well as Jackson were=20
"winning" generals, for<BR>years, just didn't end up winning.=20
David<BR><BR>Original Message:<BR>-----------------<BR>From: Ray Williams=
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:njraywms@optonline.net">njraywms@optonline.net</A><BR>Date=
: Sat,=20
17 Jan 2004 18:40:48 -0500<BR>To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups=
.com</A><BR>Subject:=20
Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and=20
books<BR><BR><BR>Robert,<BR> I remember Tank Hill=20
well. Our unit was Charlie -1-1. I learned a lot<BR>in those =
8=20
weeks. Then off to Benning and Gordon. Were all these=20
Forts<BR>named after Confederate Generals? They should be named aft=
er=20
some winning<BR>generals <BG><BR>Ray<BR> ----- Original Messa=
ge=20
----- <BR> From: William Smith <BR> To:=20
colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <BR> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 200=
4=20
5:40 PM<BR> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and=
=20
books<BR><BR><BR> Ray,<BR> I went through FT Jackson also; 'T=
ank=20
Hill.' I think they bulldozed them<BR>down for the newer units, the=
ones=20
with 'air conditioning' and bigger<BR>latrines (instead of the one shower=
per=20
60 soldiers). Fun was.<BR> Robert Laviana<BR><BR> Ray=20
Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:<BR> =20
Steve,<BR> I'm the same way wit=
h the=20
optomotrist - the last time I had an eye<BR>exam<BR> wa=
s at=20
Fort Jackson, SC back in '72. I'm getting along okay with=20
these<BR>drug<BR> store reading glasses but I think I'l=
l=20
appreciate coins much more if I<BR>got a<BR> prescripti=
on=20
pair of reading glasses.<BR> Ray<BR><BR> &nb=
sp;=20
----- Original Message -----<BR> From: "Steve Frank"=20
<taxi_steve929@yahoo.com><BR> To:=20
<colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com><BR> Sent: Saturd=
ay,=20
January 17, 2004 4:53 PM<BR> Subject: Re: [Colonial=20
Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books<BR><BR><BR> >=
=20
Ray,<BR> > This must have been around the time their=
=20
silverware<BR> > was disapearing as I remember the n=
ews=20
articles of the<BR> > missing forks and spoons quite=
=20
well.<BR> ><BR> =20
> Just kidding=20
Ray,<BR> > I think its time to pack and head out....=
Just=20
spending<BR> > the nite and getting tests done...not=
hing=20
major that I<BR> > know of...but costly none the=20
less...fist time i've<BR> > seen a doctor in 20 year=
s...I=20
think I'm due for my<BR> > checkup...at least I'm pr=
etty=20
sure you supposed to get<BR> > a thourough checkup e=
very=20
20 years...<BR> ><BR> =20
> Go=
od=20
night all,<BR> > If I don't make it, someone bring a=
=20
ouiji board to the<BR> > next C4 convention and I'll=
try=20
to contact you...<BR> ><BR> =20
> &nb=
sp; =20
Steve<BR> ><BR> =20
><BR> > --- Ray Williams=20
<njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:<BR> > >=20
Steve,<BR> > > I was in h=
is=20
house many times - he was a down to<BR> > > earth=
real=20
person.<BR> > > Ray<BR> >=20
> ----- Original Message -----<BR> >=
=20
> From: Steve<BR> > > =
To:=20
colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<BR> > > =
;=20
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:22 PM<BR> >=20
> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey=20
and<BR> > > books<BR> >=20
><BR> > ><BR> >=20
> I sit corrected Ray, God knows I heard him and=20
his<BR> > > agriculture guy<BR> =
>=20
> say it enough on TV commercials....I used to=20
ask<BR> > > why the NJ Governor<BR> &n=
bsp;=20
> > and one of his henchmen have Boston=20
accents.....he<BR> > > was actually=20
a<BR> > > very likable Governor no ma=
tter=20
which side of the<BR> > > fence you=20
stood...<BR> > ><BR> >=20
> &nb=
sp; =20
Steve<BR> > ><BR> >=20
><BR> > > --- In=20
colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray<BR> > > Willi=
ams=20
<njraywms@o...><BR> > > =20
wrote:<BR> > > >=20
Steve,<BR> > > =20
> You had it backwards... It should=20
read:<BR> > > "New Jerseys and=20
you,<BR> > > perfect together." =
For=20
non-Jerseyans, this is a<BR> > > take off on=20
a<BR> > > promotional phrase used by =
a=20
past governor (Tom<BR> > > Kean) to=20
promote<BR> > > tourism and the state=
in=20
general. I think he<BR> > > pronounced=20
perfect<BR> > > as "puhfect"=20
<BG><BR> > > > -=
----=20
Original Message -----<BR> > > =20
> From: Steve<BR> > > =
=20
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<BR> =
>=20
> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 3:40=20
PM<BR> > > > Subject:=
=20
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