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From: "Steve" <taxi_steve929@yahoo.com>
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Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
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You may be right Ray,
But in my opinion it was a war of attrition, and the Union Army,=20
having such superior numbers, would have had a difficult time losing=20
the war no matter who the generals were. I think Lincoln knew this.=20
And that is what made this war outcome more dependent upon politics=20
than generals. We all know that a little dog fights a big fight in=20
his own back yard, but even this will not stop the bigger dog from=20
eventually winning the battle as long as he has the will to continue.=20
Historians who know far more than I can ever hope to know tell us=20
that the war could have been over sooner had the Union been able to=20
motivate and move their men in for the final kill at an earlier time.=20
Lincoln knew this. He had generals who were more concerned for the=20
immediate safety of their men then for a quick end to a horrible war=20
(as opposed to a good one??) through the sacrifice of their soldiers=20
lives.
Of course these are just some of my opinions and recollections of=20
things I have read.
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Steve
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray Williams <njraywms@o...>=20
wrote:
> David,
> The last General standing is the winning General. The=20
Confederacy did have some great military minds, Lee being the best,=20
but Grant and his officers eventually proved through ability and=20
resources that they were part of the superior army. Down South the=20
Civil War is known as the Battle to Preserve State Rights and up=20
North it is known as the Battle for the Preservation of the Union.=20=20
If any of you are at a convention where EAC Dealer Steve Ellsworth=20
(nice guy) has a table, he always enjoys good discussions about the=20
Civil War. He has some nice colonials too.=20=20
> David, I'm still waiting for your Troop to camp at Quail Hill=20
Scout Reservation and do the Battle of Monmouth Hike. It's close=20
enough where I might be able to join you at your campfire...
> Ray
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: palmers4@e...=20
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
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> Ray, There is Fort A.P. HILL where the National Boy Scout=20
jamboree is hald
> every 4 years. I believe he as well as Jackson were "winning"=20
generals, for
> years, just didn't end up winning. David
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> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Ray Williams njraywms@o...
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:40:48 -0500
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
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> Robert,
> I remember Tank Hill well. Our unit was Charlie -1-1. I=20
learned a lot
> in those 8 weeks. Then off to Benning and Gordon. Were all=20
these Forts
> named after Confederate Generals? They should be named after=20
some winning
> generals <BG>
> Ray
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: William Smith=20
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
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> Ray,
> I went through FT Jackson also; 'Tank Hill.' I think they=20
bulldozed them
> down for the newer units, the ones with 'air conditioning' and=20
bigger
> latrines (instead of the one shower per 60 soldiers). Fun was.
> Robert Laviana
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> Ray Williams <njraywms@o...> wrote:
> Steve,
> I'm the same way with the optomotrist - the last time I=20
had an eye
> exam
> was at Fort Jackson, SC back in '72. I'm getting along okay=20
with these
> drug
> store reading glasses but I think I'll appreciate coins much=20
more if I
> got a
> prescription pair of reading glasses.
> Ray
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Frank" <taxi_steve929@y...>
> To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and books
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> > Ray,
> > This must have been around the time their silverware
> > was disapearing as I remember the news articles of the
> > missing forks and spoons quite well.
> >
> > Just kidding Ray,
> > I think its time to pack and head out....Just spending
> > the nite and getting tests done...nothing major that I
> > know of...but costly none the less...fist time i've
> > seen a doctor in 20 years...I think I'm due for my
> > checkup...at least I'm pretty sure you supposed to get
> > a thourough checkup every 20 years...
> >
> > Good night all,
> > If I don't make it, someone bring a ouiji board to the
> > next C4 convention and I'll try to contact you...
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- Ray Williams <njraywms@o...> wrote:
> > > Steve,
> > > I was in his house many times - he was a down to
> > > earth real person.
> > > Ray
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Steve
> > > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:22 PM
> > > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey and
> > > books
> > >
> > >
> > > I sit corrected Ray, God knows I heard him and his
> > > agriculture guy
> > > say it enough on TV commercials....I used to ask
> > > why the NJ Governor
> > > and one of his henchmen have Boston accents.....he
> > > was actually a
> > > very likable Governor no matter which side of the
> > > fence you stood...
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray
> > > Williams <njraywms@o...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Steve,
> > > > You had it backwards... It should read:
> > > "New Jerseys and you,
> > > perfect together." For non-Jerseyans, this is a
> > > take off on a
> > > promotional phrase used by a past governor (Tom
> > > Kean) to promote
> > > tourism and the state in general. I think he
> > > pronounced perfect
> > > as "puhfect" <BG>
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Steve
> > > > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 3:40 PM
> > > > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Old Bailey
> > > and books
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Ray,
> > > > This is on top of my to do list...as I think I
> > > would enjoy both.
> > > >
> > > > Definitely top of list for next book...thanks
> > > Ray
> > > >
> > > > Roger S., I know Mantoloking is one of those 1
> > > or 2 block
> > > > towns...Normandy etc...but I don't remember it
> > > being in
> > > > Connecticut...as a matter of fact....I sort of
> > > remember it being
> > > in
> > > > Horse Head country..the Heart of Jersey....
> > > >
> > > > "You and New Jersey's, Perfect Together"
> > > >
> > > > To out of staters, that last quote makes no
> > > sense...
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray
> > > Williams
> > > <njraywms@o...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > > I just received the new book I
> > > purchased, "The Copper
> > > Coinage
> > > > of the State of New Jersey". It is the
> > > annotated manuscript of
> > > Damon
> > > > Douglas edited by Gary Trutgen. I highly
> > > recommend it! Book info
> > > is
> > > > attached. But along with the book came two
> > > lengthy catalogs for
> > > > books on various topics. There is a book your
> > > friend might be
> > > > interested in:
> > > > >
> > > > > Severed Heads: British Beheadings Through
> > > the Ages
> > > > > by Geoffrey Abbott
> > > > > For many, the highlight of a guided tour of
> > > the Tower of London
> > > is
> > > > Tower Green, the site of the scaffolds on
> > > which Anne Boleyn, Lady
> > > > Jane Grey and many others, before and after,
> > > met their end. This
> > > > book, written by a retired Yeoman Warder from
> > > the Tower, presents
> > > a
> > > > morbid but entertaining anthology of one
> > > hundred of the thousands
> > > of
> > > > men and women who fell victim to the axe or
> > > sword (or the Halifax
> > > > Gibbet or the Scottish Maiden). The entries,
> > > arranged
> > > > chronologically, also look at the victims'
> > > alleged crimes, any
> > > last
> > > > words and the disposal of the body and head,
> > > often on spikes on
> > > > London Bridge. A closing index lists each
> > > victim, identifying the
> > > > type of blade that finished them off. The
> > > author clearly enjoys
> > > > uncovering little known facts and anecdotes
> > > and this book
> > > captures
> > > > his enthusiasm. 244p, 16 b/w pls (Andr=E9
> > > Deutsch 2000, Pb 2003)
> > > > >
> > > > > ISBN 0233051279. Paperback. Price US $14.95
> > > > > This is sold by Oxbow Books
> > > >
> > > http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/36114
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > > It's my understanding that
> > > counterfeiting paper, silver or
> > > gold
> > > > would sent you to Old Bailey, BUT
> > > counterfeiting copper coins was
> > > not
> > > > a capital offense and just prison time or
> > > possible disfiguration
> > > was
> > > > the penalty. It would be interesting to see
> > > if any accounts of
> > > > counterfeiters being executed are contained in
> > > this book
> > > > > Ray W
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Steve
> > > > > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 2:58 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Neil
> > > 17-K in jpeg stitched
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My appoligies to William Smith who's coin
> > > this is. I just got
> > > > done
> > > > > writing a note to a friend of mine about
> > > the old bailey site
> > > Ray
> > > > > Williams showed us the other day. This
> > > friend, "Neil" Casey,
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > > prosecutor and I am sure would like it,
> > > howerver, I was still
> > > > > thinking about him when composing this
> > > letter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Awaiting brain transplant,
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com,
> > > Steve Frank
> > > > > <taxi_steve929@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > For anyone who may have difficulty
> > > viewing bitmap
> > > > > > file, I offer Neils very nice coin in
> > > Jpeg
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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