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    Please do not let anybody else know about this. I have enough trouble deciding whether to buy food or coins.

    Morris

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    Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] ARE COLONIAL COIN VALUES STILL IN THE DARK AGES????

    ONE CAN ONLY WONDER,.........are colonial coin values still in the
    dark ages? Given this question, I'm quite sure that many colonial
    collectors would agree to a "Yes" for the answer. Lets compare!
    Recently. David Hall at PCGS had to buy back a slabbed modern Lincoln
    cent,........I believe for $40,000. Now, that cent was graded MS-70
    and it's date, 1963,.........a tragic year for a President. The buy
    back was simple,.......in the slab, this cent had contracted a "spot"
    on it's surface,.......thus by all, downgrading it to a lesser
    grade,.......WOW,........$40,000 shot in the fanny! Now, one would
    certainly wonder why a modern cent with a memorial reverse would ever
    have been a taker at %40,000,........even though, MS-70,........the
    grading standard of "Perfection". But are copper really protected in
    a plastic slab,........of course not. On can only self reason why the
    original buyer spent $40,000 on this coin,....while inturn, he could
    have bought a nice state coinage example from the past Ford
    Sale,...........now history could have been made easily for that
    buyer, instead, spending $40,000 on a grade,.......this person is an
    investor,.......definitly not a collector in my opnion. If we equate
    the mintage for the 1963 cent which is 757,185,645,.......if we take
    1% of 1% for that mintage, we would have somewhere in the
    neighborhood of 7,570 cent coins that could possibly be considered MS-
    70 level,..........conservative? perhaps, but not unreasonable
    considering the overall mintage for 1963. If there were records
    available on the total mintages that were struck for all New Jersey
    varieites combined,.............that figure would not even "dent" the
    opposing mintage for the 1963 cent,..infact, we can take all the
    colonials that are affiliated with America,..all the series and all
    of each of the varieties,..........combine them and still,...no where
    close to the 1963 mintage,.................but yet,...........1 1963
    cent in perfect grade brought $40,000. Our colonial coinage has so
    much history,......each coin romancing the times from their simple
    beginning to now into our 2X2 cotton inserts of today,.....the events
    that these coin went through,........but yet, 1963 had only two key
    factors in history,......the assasination of Kenndy and the Civil
    Rights Movement into full play,.................but yet,.....$40,000
    dictates a investment leverage only,..........while that Maris 14-J
    tells us a history that our forefathers had shared together on
    establishing the most financially strongest, the most powerful
    country that this earth has ever seen.
    One can take all these modern coins of superior grade and melt
    them,.......stop bidding ridiculous numbers and stop giving these the
    attention,.............combine this,......coins would come back into
    the realm of the collector and out of the hands of the investor!
    MARIO



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    <DIV>Please do not let anybody else know about this.  I have enough trouble deciding whether to buy food or coins.</DIV>
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    <DIV>Morris<BR><BR><B><I>Mario Byrge <mariobyrge@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Yahoo! Groups SpamGuard has detected that the attached message to the <BR>group colonial-coins is likely to be spam. For more information <BR>about SpamGuard, please visit our help pages: <BR>http://groups.yahoo.com/local/spamguard.html<BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR>> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 <BR>To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<BR>From: "Mario Byrge" <MARIOBYRGE@COMCAST.NET><BR>Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:16:46 -0000<BR>Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] ARE COLONIAL COIN VALUES STILL IN THE DARK AGES????<BR><BR>ONE CAN ONLY WONDER,.........are colonial coin values still in the <BR>dark ages? Given this question, I'm quite sure that many colonial <BR>collectors would agree to a "Yes" for the answer. Lets compare! <BR>Recently. David Hall at
    PCGS had to buy back a slabbed modern Lincoln <BR>cent,........I believe for $40,000. Now, that cent was graded MS-70 <BR>and it's date, 1963,.........a tragic year for a President. The buy <BR>back was simple,.......in the slab, this cent had contracted a "spot" <BR>on it's surface,.......thus by all, downgrading it to a lesser <BR>grade,.......WOW,........$40,000 shot in the fanny! Now, one would <BR>certainly wonder why a modern cent with a memorial reverse would ever <BR>have been a taker at %40,000,........even though, MS-70,........the <BR>grading standard of "Perfection". But are copper really protected in <BR>a plastic slab,........of course not. On can only self reason why the <BR>original buyer spent $40,000 on this coin,....while inturn, he could <BR>have bought a nice state coinage example from the past Ford <BR>Sale,...........now history could have been made easily for that <BR>buyer, instead, spending $40,000 on a grade,.......this person is an
    <BR>investor,.......definitly not a collector in my opnion. If we equate <BR>the mintage for the 1963 cent which is 757,185,645,.......if we take <BR>1% of 1% for that mintage, we would have somewhere in the <BR>neighborhood of 7,570 cent coins that could possibly be considered MS-<BR>70 level,..........conservative? perhaps, but not unreasonable <BR>considering the overall mintage for 1963. If there were records <BR>available on the total mintages that were struck for all New Jersey <BR>varieites combined,.............that figure would not even "dent" the <BR>opposing mintage for the 1963 cent,..infact, we can take all the <BR>colonials that are affiliated with America,..all the series and all <BR>of each of the varieties,..........combine them and still,...no where <BR>close to the 1963 mintage,.................but yet,...........1 1963 <BR>cent in perfect grade brought $40,000. Our colonial coinage has so <BR>much history,......each coin romancing the times from their simple
    <BR>beginning to now into our 2X2 cotton inserts of today,.....the events <BR>that these coin went through,........but yet, 1963 had only two key <BR>factors in history,......the assasination of Kenndy and the Civil <BR>Rights Movement into full play,.................but yet,.....$40,000 <BR>dictates a investment leverage only,..........while that Maris 14-J <BR>tells us a history that our forefathers had shared together on <BR>establishing the most financially strongest, the most powerful <BR>country that this earth has ever seen.<BR>One can take all these modern coins of superior grade and melt <BR>them,.......stop bidding ridiculous numbers and stop giving these the <BR>attention,.............combine this,......coins would come back into <BR>the realm of the collector and out of the hands of the investor!<BR>MARIO<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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