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- From sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu Sat Mar 20 17:54:25 2004
Return-Path: <sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu> X-Sender: sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 41350 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2004 01:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Mar 2004 01:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO GWIA.HSC.WVU.EDU) (157.182.105.18) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Mar 2004 01:54:20 -0000 Received: from HSC-DOM5-MTA by GWIA.HSC.WVU.EDU with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:54:55 -0500 Message-Id: <s05caf9f.027@GWIA.HSC.WVU.EDU> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.2 Beta Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:53:57 -0500 To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 157.182.105.18 From: "Stan Stephens" <sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu> Subject: Re: {Possible SPAM} [Colonial Numismatics] St Patrick - African X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12789478 X-Yahoo-Profile: vandaliawv
Ray, Share. Those who don't want it don't have to access it. Stan
>>> njraywms@optonline.net 03/20/04 8:44 PM >>> Steve, I can't believe I found it so quickly. It's a 7 page pamphlet. Email your address privately and I'll mail it to you ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Frank To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy St. Patrick's With a Nimbus
I've been to Georgia. You don't have to be in a monastery to live like a monk. I'd like to see his study Ray. I would then love to presnt these facts to the Hibernian Club on St. Patricks day around 4PM after everyone is tuned up. In particular to the oldtime members after they are half in the bag. I think they would welcome these thoughts for review as very few seem to have racial issues.(yea...right)
It is an interesting idea Ray....I always thought he was a Goomba.... Steve
Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote: Steve, My Mom's uncle is a Monk in a monastery in Georgia. He did some research on St Patrick and has come to the conclusion that St Patrick came from Africa and was most likely not Caucasian. I have a pamphlet he wrote on the subject. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Frank To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Happy St. Patrick's With a Nimbus
John and Mike, My knowledge in this area is poor to say the least. I am, however, enjoying the thread. I found many more google "hits" using the spelling "miter". All of the sites I visited agree that the miter St. Patrick wears in this and other depictions was not invented for another 500 years after he walked the Earth, although another soft, flat type of miter may have existed. Who knows?? Perhaps the second cross was added to the Roman style miter to show that Episcopalians were twice as righteous as there Catholic counterparts. I doubt if it's as simple as this, but if the Shamrock was added later to represent the trinity.....why not??
Steve
PS - Interesting link below to "St. Patrick myths" site
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:NNSzPrqHDNMJ:www.enya.org/stories/story07.htm+%22st.+Patrick%22+%22miter%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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