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    --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "mario" <mariobyrge@c...>
    wrote:
    > RAY;
    > WHY THE SECRETS ON THIS "NEW VARIETY" OR NEW
    TYPE? ,...........HONESTLY, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND ALL THE SECRETS THAT
    COLONIAL PEOPLE HAVE,...........HELL HARRY, AS THEY SAY,..........LET
    IT ALL OUT!
    > MARIO

    Hi Mario/Les,
    I always take notice of counterfeits as I have of the several fantasy
    issues made from counterfeit halfpence that you've posted, most
    recently that of lot 3905610147 that sold after three listings for
    $69. One thing you said throughout those three listings of this piece
    was "this is definitly a great coin in itself and possibly the only
    one to exist from this genuine/forgery die muling" even though I had
    pointed out to discretely you after the first listing that you had
    sold a very similar piece imitating the same design as bbaycolony for
    $406 to a jd1776.
    In my research I've discovered another similarly styled piece that
    you sold as bbaycolony - I had the forthought to print them out or
    otherwise keep records of those pieces on my hard drive, as any good
    researcher would do - that had a similarly styled reverse figure
    including the "Mr. Nedick" head that John K. spoke of. This piece had
    the obverse re-engraved to imitate a CT and sold for $65.
    There were several other such lots that you sold as bbaycolony during
    that time of a similar nature, re-engraved on counterfeit halfpence
    or an unknown copper of similar size. As I recall from those sales of
    these previous two pieces and these others you said in your lot
    descriptions that they had come from Germany.
    Needless to say I find it interesting that the latest offering on
    ebay is so similar to the pieces you had sold previously on eBay as
    bbaycolony - the disjointed figure, the "Mr. Nedick" head with the
    feathers above, and the triangular tomahawk, etc. Interestingly the
    newest Indian design piece also combines one of the attributes of the
    CT piece, with globe from the underlying halfpenny design left in as
    part of the reverse figure design.
    I cannot help but conclude that all three of these pieces were made
    by the same individual, along with several of the other pieces you
    mentioned coming from this same individual a few years ago when you
    were known as bbaycolony. That is my opinion. So, what can you tell
    us about this person from Germany who sold and shipped you those
    pieces? Apparently you wouldn't consider it a secret, and I would
    very much be interested in contacting him.
    Byron


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