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- From bkw11@psu.edu Fri Apr 09 22:44:22 2004
Return-Path: <bkw11@psu.edu> X-Sender: bkw11@psu.edu X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 58724 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2004 05:44:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2004 05:44:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.67) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2004 05:44:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.187] by n12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2004 05:44:18 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:44:16 -0000 To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <c581jg+kn19@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <007e01c41eb0$e45883a0$27922b44@warn1201.mi.comcast.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2511 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.67 From: "Byron Weston" <bkw11@psu.edu> X-Originating-IP: 199.234.152.137 Subject: Re: RAY W. WHY THE SECRETS ON THIS "NEW" VARIETY X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=158000954 X-Yahoo-Profile: bkweston
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "mario" <mariobyrge@c...> wrote: > RAY; > WHY THE SECRETS ON THIS "NEW VARIETY" OR NEW TYPE? ,...........HONESTLY, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND ALL THE SECRETS THAT COLONIAL PEOPLE HAVE,...........HELL HARRY, AS THEY SAY,..........LET IT ALL OUT! > MARIO
Hi Mario/Les, I always take notice of counterfeits as I have of the several fantasy issues made from counterfeit halfpence that you've posted, most recently that of lot 3905610147 that sold after three listings for $69. One thing you said throughout those three listings of this piece was "this is definitly a great coin in itself and possibly the only one to exist from this genuine/forgery die muling" even though I had pointed out to discretely you after the first listing that you had sold a very similar piece imitating the same design as bbaycolony for $406 to a jd1776. In my research I've discovered another similarly styled piece that you sold as bbaycolony - I had the forthought to print them out or otherwise keep records of those pieces on my hard drive, as any good researcher would do - that had a similarly styled reverse figure including the "Mr. Nedick" head that John K. spoke of. This piece had the obverse re-engraved to imitate a CT and sold for $65. There were several other such lots that you sold as bbaycolony during that time of a similar nature, re-engraved on counterfeit halfpence or an unknown copper of similar size. As I recall from those sales of these previous two pieces and these others you said in your lot descriptions that they had come from Germany. Needless to say I find it interesting that the latest offering on ebay is so similar to the pieces you had sold previously on eBay as bbaycolony - the disjointed figure, the "Mr. Nedick" head with the feathers above, and the triangular tomahawk, etc. Interestingly the newest Indian design piece also combines one of the attributes of the CT piece, with globe from the underlying halfpenny design left in as part of the reverse figure design. I cannot help but conclude that all three of these pieces were made by the same individual, along with several of the other pieces you mentioned coming from this same individual a few years ago when you were known as bbaycolony. That is my opinion. So, what can you tell us about this person from Germany who sold and shipped you those pieces? Apparently you wouldn't consider it a secret, and I would very much be interested in contacting him. Byron
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