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From: Roger Moore <rogermoore435@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Ray - I am in trouble...REAL TROUBLE!
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John. I will jump in at this point with my two cents
worth. Rather than bemoaning the lack of interest in
Blacksmiths, could I suggest that you be the point
person to develop the interest. Take Griffee and SPs
as a guide though there are many other examples.
Unless there is an interest in a coinage developed, a
lack of interset will continue. Publish, publish,
publish!!! You build it and they will come. Roger
--- johnmenc@optonline.net wrote:
> OK ... for now ...we shall see after Wood 46.
>
> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Byron
> Weston" <bkw11@p...>
> wrote:
> > Canadian collectors seem fairly well organized to
> me, John,
> they're
> > having a convention soon, if it hasn't already
> happened, and they
> > have an specialty organization called, CATC, I
> believe. I've found
> > Canadians to be much more broad minded than we
> Americans, and much
> > more knowledgeable in areas such as Blacksmiths.
> > My motives for belonging to the Blacksmith esig is
> simply that I
> > might learn something from a few of these
> Canadians who obviously
> > know much more about the subject than you or I,
> and if it relates
> in
> > some way with counterfeit halfpence all the better
> - such as
> Gord's
> > revelation about Wood 42.
> > Good luck with your endeavor to impress the
> Canadians, you're
> already
> > off to a good start.
> > Byron
> >
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com,
> johnmenc@o... wrote:
> > > Byron - there are dozens upon dozens of
> specialties in U.S.
> > Colonial
> > > Coins - true the one's I frequent I try to
> dominate in terms of
> > > knowledge and specimens. As an example I do not
> own one
> > > Vermont,Fugio,Connecticut,etc.,at this time. As
> you know we only
> > > have 17 eSIG Blacksmith members with only 11 of
> these being
> serious
> > > minus yourself since only 11 have also signed up
> in Blacksmith-
> 2,
> > > since you already have tagged yourself as simply
> an onlooker -
> no
> > > problem - your just overviewing to make sure no
> Blacksmith which
> is
> > > posted has a Westonian obverse/reverse to one of
> your (sorry -
> > our?)
> > > families of British imports - why this number is
> not 110 members
> at
> > > this time does disturb me ... my only thought is
> that the
> Canadians
> > > simply are not as well organized as we are in
> terms of
> > organizations
> > > like C4 or EAC. New members join here all the
> time - Gord did
> have
> > > to track down markus and convince him to join -
> since then he
> has
> > > been a powerhouse! Going on the Internet and
> finding & joining
> an
> > > eSIG group is not that easy ... in my opinion it
> does take some
> > > indirect advertising.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Byron
> Weston"
> <bkw11@p...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com,
> johnmenc@o... wrote:
> > > > > Ray - Here is the situation. Say you were in
> a particular
> > > > collecting
> > > > > niche of specialized tokens. Then - every
> couple of months
> or
> > so
> > > > you
> > > > > would discover a new variety. If you try to
> report there is
> > > > > virtually no pulse from any other colectors
> in this field,
> > since
> > > > > most collectors have simply been
> "ballparking" the design
> > > elements
> > > > > to the closest already pictured variety for
> the last 100
> years
> > > from
> > > > > major auction sales or a standard reference
> - even though
> > > sometimes
> > > > > its not even close. What do you do??? If you
> try to tell
> them
> > > its a
> > > > > new die combination - you simply get no
> response - how would
> > you
> > > > > collect in this niche and how do you (if
> possible) change
> the
> > > > > mindset in this niche that a new discovery
> exist. What was
> even
> > > > more
> > > > > amazing was I recieved an alert from a
> collector on two
> > > specimens
> > > > to
> > > > > be offered on E-Bay saying these two
> particular specimens
> were
> > > not
> > > > > of this varieties A & B but were of the
> varieties C & D but
> in
> > > > > reality they were actually new discovery
> specimens E & F!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't make this stuff up ...
> > > >
> > > > No, you can't, John. Apparently you are
> disatisfied that every
> > > > Canadian or member of the Blacksmith's egroup
> are not bowing
> down
> > > to
> > > > you in awe by now, so you've brought your ego
> here - again. As
> > you
> > > > have already expoused, none of us here can
> ever hope to
> achieve
> > > your
> > > > accomplishments or rise to your lofty heights,
> so I don't know
> > > what
> > > > good presenting your arguments here will do.
> If you're looking
> > for
> > > > someone to agree with your every word then I'd
> suggest
> starting
> > > your
> > > > own egroup and letting in only Bill and the
> anonymous third
> > person
> > > > who always agrees with you and Bill.
> > > > Byron
>
>
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