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Hi;
Extreme caution should be used when purchasing coins that were from "wrecks=
",.......their promotional values will usually, far exceed their numismatic=
auctual worth.=20
We can examine the coins that were recovered from the Mel Fisher discovery =
of the "Attocha". It was only several years after the discovery that Mels C=
ompany was hauled into court under violations of reproducing many of differ=
ent types, only to be sold and promoted as a "genuine" Attocha example.=20
The Wreck of the Admiral Gardner can be sumed in similarity. These coins ar=
e "crap", no numismatic value and only a slight intrinsic value of the copp=
er. Some of these are obviously, miss leading promotionals that are sellin=
g replicas of these types,....my advice, stay away from them.
The "V" coppers of the Dutch are also being made and flooding the market as=
genuine issues. These are extremely easy to distinquish, many of them look=
to "Perfect" for copper alloy that was produced from dies 200 to 300 years=
ago then sailed to the new world,.which 35 to 45 day voyage would have eff=
ected the surfaces and the condiotion of these coppers,.......another promo=
tional will eventually lead to a fateful secondary market. "When a 300 year=
old coin looks "Perfect" then it is "New",........Hoard finds that are auc=
tual, whether they are medieval or ancient, even in uncirculated condition =
will always "bear the scares of time",........nothing that comes out of the=
ground or water looks perfect and new,.......not even the original cargo o=
f the Brother Jonathon,.......those gold $20 that you see slabbed, have bee=
n, what the grading service calls "Processed" inorder to slab,...........wh=
at a bunch of crap,.............
Compare values of the Jonathan cargo,...what 1857-S $20,...........MS-65,..=
.....$2800 at the time per gray sheet,....but process (cleanned) and slabbe=
d, then promoted to $7500 apiece,.........so look who made money and look w=
ho got "sqatted",...............
So like anyother promotional, they had only proved that the promoter became=
the investment, not you or the coin
MARIO
----- Original Message -----=20
From: johnmenc@optonline.net=20
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Coin, Jewely, Fenton glass, Post Card=
s and Dolls Auction on Sun. July 11 @ 1PM h
Coins from this wreck - do not mean whole helluva alot ...see=20
below ...=20
"Admiral Gardner"
Location
Lat/lon: 51=B0 12' 00" N 01=B0 30' 30" E
Description: Goodwins Sands, Kent
Access restrictions
Restrictions: An area within 150m radius of position 51=B0 12.00' N.,=20
01=B0 30.56' E.. Chart affected: 1828.
This site is a designated Historic Wreck under the Protection of=20
Wrecks Act, 1973
Notes
The Admiral Gardner was an outward-bound English East Indiaman which=20
sank in 1809. The site has been subject to commercial salvage and=20
some archaeological investigation.=20
ADU designation: January 3, 1990; 1989 No. 3; 1989/2295; Original=20
Designation Order (June 3, 1985; 1985 No. 1; 1985/699) revoked but=20
the site re-designated as above.
ADU licences: No licences have been issued.
Information provided by
The Archaeological Diving Unit
Supplementary information
Questions to anyone that knows the answer: Is there any value to the=20
British coins that were on the vessel "Admiral Gardner" - Some of=20
these coins are being sold collectors items?=20
- - virgil chambers (vhchambers@midohio.net), 29 Jan 99=20
Well... I just picked up 2 of the "X Cash" coins for US$3 each off=20
of Yahoo auctions. Not bad, in my oppinion, for coins minted in=20
1808. But, I just saw one coin shop selling them for $9.95.. and=20
another for $29.95.. so look around.
However, such things are only of value to those who value them.=20
As "melt copper" these coins may be worth only 10 cents... If you=20
are an extreme "Ship Wreck Nut" then they may be worth the $29.95 ??
Personally, $3 was excellent for me. Sure, there isnt an "East India=20
Company" any more, but either is there a CCCP... and I buy those=20
coins as well. Why ? Because its all part of history, and that I can=20
pick up a coin minted almost 200 years ago is amazing.
If, however, you "collect for investment" instead of for=20
entertainment/interest, then save your oney and buy some gold or=20
silver bullion.=20
- - Luggage (j_williams@hotmail.com), 10 Aug 100=20
I kept a boat at Dover some years ago. The new ferry terminal was=20
being built with sand dredged from the goodwins. There were so many=20
metal detector enthusiasts interrupting the building work that, I=20
was told, the company deliberately salted the area with scrap iron=20
to put them off. The prize they were seeking was the coin/tokens=20
from the HEIC.=20
- - Jim Brodie (jim_brodie@yahoo.com), 27 Oct 2000=20
hi, its my birthday today 17th nov, and from my dear freind, he gave=20
me some coins from the Admiral Gardener ship wreck. I am very=20
interested in wrecks, the coins are in very good contion for being=20
nearly 200 years old. there is even a clup of coins which is embeded=20
together along with single coins.=20
- - Claire Taylor (bears-cabin@supanet.com), 17 Nov 2001=20
From: www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/brit08-1.htm
East India Company - 1808 - X Cash Obverse - Coat of Arms of the=20
East India Company. The supporters stand on a ribbon with the=20
inscription: Legend, EAST INDIA COMPANY Exergue, 1808 Reverse - A=20
legend in Arabic. Size, 25 mm. This coin came from the dealer with a=20
small piece of paper on which was printed: "While delivering the=20
freshly minted coins to Bengal India, The Admiral Gardner and the=20
Britania were sunk in a storm. The coins, enclosed in wax sealed=20
kegs were amazingly nice when recovered from the ocean floor in=20
1985." Obviously the coins were in near mint condition. If you pay=20
more than $5 for one of these you've missed the point of the text=20
above, there are thousands of these in this condition.=20
- - Chris Anderson (csanderson@mail.com), 25 Jan 2002=20
There were a few thousand coins discovered in the sunken HMS Admiral=20
Gardner: the copper coins sell anywhere from US$3 - US$ 8 each. The=20
salvage operation found a very limited number of gold covered coins=20
and it is believed these were minted to be distributed as new year=20
gifts amongst the elite. Those are very rare, not many have been=20
traded or offered for sale and it is unknown exactly how many were=20
minted, though some have estimated that 50 pieces were made. I'd say=20
these would be worth in excess of US$ 800 each. (Personal view.=20
Interested buyers are to do their own determination of value or=20
consult a professional appraiser.)=20
- - Robert Schmerler (r_schmerlerus@yahoo.com), 20 May 2002=20
I would like to see some pictures of admiral gardner coins
- - Deloris (miss liz to you), 17 Mar 2003=20
I just bought a X cash coin from the Admiral Gardner in St Thomas. I=20
paid $20.00 for it. I guess I got screwed, but it is in great=20
condition and it is from 1809.=20
- - r molnar (rmol715@aol.com), 24 Nov 2003=20
I've got a clump of these coins and have removed one to clean up. I=20
knew one of the people who did some salvage work on the wreck. Just=20
to say thanks for finally finding out more on these was a tremendus=20
help.=20
- - L Faulkner (screwloose@hotmail.com), 14 Apr 2004=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Extreme caution should be used when purcha=
sing=20
coins that were from "wrecks",.......their promotional values will usually,=
far=20
exceed their numismatic auctual worth. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We can examine the coins that were recover=
ed from=20
the Mel Fisher discovery of the "Attocha". It was only several years after =
the=20
discovery that Mels Company was hauled into court under violations of=20
reproducing many of different types, only to be sold and promoted as a "gen=
uine"=20
Attocha example. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Wreck of the Admiral Gardner can be su=
med in=20
similarity. These coins are "crap", no numismatic value and only a slight=20
intrinsic value of the copper. Some of these are obviously, miss lead=
ing=20
promotionals that are selling replicas of these types,....my advice, stay a=
way=20
from them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The "V" coppers of the Dutch are also bein=
g made=20
and flooding the market as genuine issues. These are extremely easy to=20
distinquish, many of them look to "Perfect" for copper alloy that was produ=
ced=20
from dies 200 to 300 years ago then sailed to the new world,.which 35 to 45=
day=20
voyage would have effected the surfaces and the condiotion of these=20
coppers,.......another promotional will eventually lead to a fateful second=
ary=20
market. "When a 300 year old coin looks "Perfect" then it is "New",........=
Hoard=20
finds that are auctual, whether they are medieval or ancient, even in=20
uncirculated condition will always "bear the scares of time",........nothin=
g=20
that comes out of the ground or water looks perfect and new,.......not even=
the=20
original cargo of the Brother Jonathon,.......those gold $20 that you see=20
slabbed, have been, what the grading service calls "Processed" inorder to=20
slab,...........what a bunch of crap,.............</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Compare values of the Jonathan cargo,...wh=
at 1857-S=20
$20,...........MS-65,.......$2800 at the time per gray sheet,....but proces=
s=20
(cleanned) and slabbed, then promoted to $7500 apiece,.........so look who =
made=20
money and look who got "sqatted",...............</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So like anyother promotional, they had onl=
y proved=20
that the promoter became the investment, not you or the coin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MARIO</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=3Djohnmenc@optonline.net=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 09, 2004 10:49=
=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Colonial Numismatics] Re=
: Coin,=20
Jewely, Fenton glass, Post Cards and Dolls Auction on Sun. July 11 @ 1PM=
=20
h</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>Coins from this wreck - do not mean whole helluva alot=
=20
...see <BR>below ... <BR><BR>"Admiral Gardner"<BR>Location<BR>Lat/lon: 51=
=B0 12'=20
00" N 01=B0 30' 30" E<BR>Description: Goodwins Sands, Kent<BR><BR>Access=
=20
restrictions<BR>Restrictions: An area within 150m radius of position 51=
=B0=20
12.00' N., <BR>01=B0 30.56' E.. Chart affected: 1828.<BR>This site is a=20
designated Historic Wreck under the Protection of <BR>Wrecks Act,=20
1973<BR><BR>Notes<BR>The Admiral Gardner was an outward-bound English Eas=
t=20
Indiaman which <BR>sank in 1809. The site has been subject to commercial=
=20
salvage and <BR>some archaeological investigation. <BR>ADU designation:=20
January 3, 1990; 1989 No. 3; 1989/2295; Original <BR>Designation Order (J=
une=20
3, 1985; 1985 No. 1; 1985/699) revoked but <BR>the site re-designated as=
=20
above.<BR>ADU licences: No licences have been issued.<BR><BR>Information=
=20
provided by<BR>The Archaeological Diving Unit<BR><BR><BR>Supplementary=20
information<BR>Questions to anyone that knows the answer: Is there any va=
lue=20
to the <BR>British coins that were on the vessel "Admiral Gardner" - Some=
of=20
<BR>these coins are being sold collectors items? <BR>- - virgil chambers=
=20
(vhchambers@midohio.net), 29 Jan 99 <BR>Well... I just picked up 2 of the=
"X=20
Cash" coins for US$3 each off <BR>of Yahoo auctions. Not bad, in my oppin=
ion,=20
for coins minted in <BR>1808. But, I just saw one coin shop selling them =
for=20
$9.95.. and <BR>another for $29.95.. so look around.<BR>However, such thi=
ngs=20
are only of value to those who value them. <BR>As "melt copper" these coi=
ns=20
may be worth only 10 cents... If you <BR>are an extreme "Ship Wreck Nut" =
then=20
they may be worth the $29.95 ??<BR>Personally, $3 was excellent for me. S=
ure,=20
there isnt an "East India <BR>Company" any more, but either is there a CC=
CP...=20
and I buy those <BR>coins as well. Why ? Because its all part of history,=
and=20
that I can <BR>pick up a coin minted almost 200 years ago is amazing.<BR>=
If,=20
however, you "collect for investment" instead of for=20
<BR>entertainment/interest, then save your oney and buy some gold or=20
<BR>silver bullion. <BR>- - Luggage (j_williams@hotmail.com), 10 Aug 100=
=20
<BR><BR>I kept a boat at Dover some years ago. The new ferry terminal was=
=20
<BR>being built with sand dredged from the goodwins. There were so many=20
<BR>metal detector enthusiasts interrupting the building work that, I <BR=
>was=20
told, the company deliberately salted the area with scrap iron <BR>to put=
them=20
off. The prize they were seeking was the coin/tokens <BR>from the HEIC. <=
BR>-=20
- Jim Brodie (jim_brodie@yahoo.com), 27 Oct 2000 <BR><BR>hi, its my birth=
day=20
today 17th nov, and from my dear freind, he gave <BR>me some coins from t=
he=20
Admiral Gardener ship wreck. I am very <BR>interested in wrecks, the coin=
s are=20
in very good contion for being <BR>nearly 200 years old. there is even a =
clup=20
of coins which is embeded <BR>together along with single coins. <BR>- - C=
laire=20
Taylor (bears-cabin@supanet.com), 17 Nov 2001 <BR><BR>From:=20
www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/brit08-1.htm<BR>East India Company - 1808 =
- X=20
Cash Obverse - Coat of Arms of the <BR>East India Company. The supporters=
=20
stand on a ribbon with the <BR>inscription: Legend, EAST INDIA COMPANY=20
Exergue, 1808 Reverse - A <BR>legend in Arabic. Size, 25 mm. This coin ca=
me=20
from the dealer with a <BR>small piece of paper on which was printed: "Wh=
ile=20
delivering the <BR>freshly minted coins to Bengal India, The Admiral Gard=
ner=20
and the <BR>Britania were sunk in a storm. The coins, enclosed in wax sea=
led=20
<BR>kegs were amazingly nice when recovered from the ocean floor in <BR>1=
985."=20
Obviously the coins were in near mint condition. If you pay <BR>more than=
$5=20
for one of these you've missed the point of the text <BR>above, there are=
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thousands of these in this condition. <BR>- - Chris Anderson=20
(csanderson@mail.com), 25 Jan 2002 <BR><BR>There were a few thousand coin=
s=20
discovered in the sunken HMS Admiral <BR>Gardner: the copper coins sell=20
anywhere from US$3 - US$ 8 each. The <BR>salvage operation found a very=20
limited number of gold covered coins <BR>and it is believed these were mi=
nted=20
to be distributed as new year <BR>gifts amongst the elite. Those are very=
=20
rare, not many have been <BR>traded or offered for sale and it is unknown=
=20
exactly how many were <BR>minted, though some have estimated that 50 piec=
es=20
were made. I'd say <BR>these would be worth in excess of US$ 800 each.=20
(Personal view. <BR>Interested buyers are to do their own determination o=
f=20
value or <BR>consult a professional appraiser.) <BR>- - Robert Schmerler=
=20
(r_schmerlerus@yahoo.com), 20 May 2002 <BR><BR>I would like to see some=20
pictures of admiral gardner coins<BR><BR>- - Deloris (miss liz to you), 1=
7 Mar=20
2003 <BR><BR>I just bought a X cash coin from the Admiral Gardner in St=20
Thomas. I <BR>paid $20.00 for it. I guess I got screwed, but it is in gre=
at=20
<BR>condition and it is from 1809. <BR>- - r molnar (rmol715@aol.com), 24=
Nov=20
2003 <BR><BR>I've got a clump of these coins and have removed one to clea=
n up.=20
I <BR>knew one of the people who did some salvage work on the wreck. Just=
=20
<BR>to say thanks for finally finding out more on these was a tremendus=20
<BR>help. <BR>- - L Faulkner (screwloose@hotmail.com), 14 Apr 2004=20
<BR><BR><BR>--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "MAZ" <mzraik@w...&=
gt;=20
wrote:<BR>> Hello Everyone,<BR>> <BR>> A great opportunity to bu=
y=20
collectible items has come in the form <BR>of <BR>> an auction - 2004-07-09
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