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Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: [ColNewsLetFndn] A few Ford musings
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Clem, I disagree. We can either hide our heads in
the sand or realize there are deceptive pieces out
there made to fool the collector. You opened the door
so don't be upset with what enters. Roger
--- "Clement V. Schettino" <copperclem@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Even though people might find the way this string is
> going to be interesting
> and important I for one am sorry it has taken this
> direction, it was not my
> intent. It seems to be going further in some other
> egroups and I hope it
> stops soon.
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> My statement of "what do you think" was actually a
> comment directed to Stan
> S, and was meant as a casual statement as I knew he
> was waiting to see this
> item.
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> Clem
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: JCSpilman [mailto:JCSpilman1@Comcast.NET]
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> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: [ColNewsLetFndn]
> A few Ford musings
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> Clem - - You wrote - -
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> Other conversations and meetings included the time I
> showed him a few of the
> very rare Slave Badges that a friend an I acquired
> at a small auction and
> the time I ran into John at a convention and got to
> introduce him to my good
> friend Stan Stephens, who instantly started to quiz
> him on his gold Saint
> Patrick farthing. Well it's on Stack's site now
> Stan, large image in all its
> glory .what do you think?
>
>
>
>
> Clem - - you tread here on very thin ice when you
> ask about gold items in
> the Ford sale. I have been in the Early American
> Numismatics arena for
> about 45 years - almost enough to be called an "old
> timer."
>
> During that time I have had several private
> discussions with others having
> the same span of interest and specific coinages -
> some even longer than
> mine.
>
> So - what do I think?
>
> I think that you should be very suspicious of any
> gold item in the Ford
> sale. Especially if it came through the estate of
> F.C.C.Boyd. Boyd was
> scamed by a number of snake oil salesmen who
> manufactured unique specimens
> in gold for sale to Boyd. In earlier years - many
> of these unique gold
> items moved into the hands of other owners who
> believe them to be genuine.
> They are not!
>
> Note specifically - I AM NOT saying that the
> St.Pats. is a fake. I do not
> know whether it is or not. There are others that may
> know for certain.
> However - I can say that the St. Pats. specimen is
> not believed by Stack's
> to be a fake - otherwise it would not be in the
> catalog. Stacks has
> previously removed several gold items from earlier
> Ford sales that were
> known to be spurious.
>
>
> Many of those who could have testified to these
> statements are now dead.
> There do remain alive today several numismatists who
> are aware of these
> facts and can tell you who manufactured these
> spurious specimens, and when.
> I hope that someday they will document their
> information as a matter of
> historical record.
>
> It will be another 15 years or so before many of
> these questions are
> answered. Back when the late Ray Williamson was
> writing "Early Breen" for
> CNL he showed me several very detailed letters
> written by Walter Breen that
> discussed a number of cases and people with whom
> Breen had interacted in
> such matters. We decided NOT to publish any of that
> material in CNL but
> instead to impound the letters for a 25 year period
> assuming that all the
> parties involved would then be dead. If memory
> serves - only one such person
> remains alive today. I am uncertain of the exact
> date when these letters
> can be open and read - but believe it to be close to
> the year 2015, at which
> time the "To be continued" statement on page 1530B
> of CNL can be
> implemented. Those several sealed letters are
> currently impounded at the
> American Numismatic Society Library under the
> stewardship of Chief Librarian
> Frank Campbell.
>
> Jim/CNLF
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