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From: "Clement V. Schettino" <copperclem@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: A few Ford musings
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Hey Stan,

I would but this would conflict with my own interests.

Yea right!

Clem

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Stephens [mailto:sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 1:42 PM
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: A few Ford musings

Hey Clem,
Regrettfully I cannot. I sure wish I could!!
Stan
p.s.
maybe you can be my agent on the gold St. Pat <BG>

>>> copperclem@comcast.net 1/4/2005 12:45:05 PM >>>
Thanks Stan,

That was what I was waiting to hear from you. Will you be able to make
the
sale?

Clem

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Stephens [mailto:sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:13 PM
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: A few Ford musings

Regarding the gold St. Patrick the additional pedigree information is
very useful and important. I can find NO reason to doubt the
authenticity of this coin. Everything about this coin looks right to
me.

These dies have been used to make copper farthings. I have photographs
of four farthings that are a perfect match for this coin. They range
in
grade from VG-EF.

Also notice how similar the gold coin is to lot #4 the silver coin.
Same style (family if you will) and most of the letter punches match.

For the most part I have observed that the Breen copper 208s and
silver
210s (nothing under the King) with minimal punctuation are the best
executed.

I do disagree with Mike's hunch that this gold coin may have been made
a few years after the copper and silver coins were produced. I have
made it a point to study the edges carefully and I have seen wide
course
edging on many farthings as well as some of the shillings. The picture
of the gold coin is excellent and the fabric of the coin looks right
to
me.

I still don't think the magnitude of this series is fully understood.
Two hundred and fifty plus varieties of farthings. Most showing a
great
deal of circulation wear and tear. A large number of halfpence at
least
at one time. Many more varieties of shillings than was previously
thought to exist. There is even a well worn halfpence struck in silver
that pedigrees back to the 18th century as well as a martlet under the
king farthing proof that is struck in lead.

Irish gold is very rare. About a dozen pistoles and double pistoles
from the civil war period have survived. It is remarkable that this
St.
Patrick has as well.

My two cents worth,
Stan

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Hey Stan,

 

I would but this would conflict with m=
y
own interests.

 

Yea right!

 

Clem

 

-----Original Message-----<br=
>
From: Stan Stephens
[mailto:sstephens@hsc.wvu.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2=
005
1:42 PM 
To: colonial-coins@yahoogrou=
ps.com 
Subject: RE: [Colonial
Numismatics] Re: A few Ford musings

 

<tt>Hey Clem,</tt> 
<tt>Regrettfully I cannot. I sure wish I c=
ould!!</tt> 
<tt>Stan</tt> 
<tt>p.s.</tt> 
<tt>maybe you can be my agent on the gold St. Pa=
t
<BG></tt> 
 
<tt>>>> copperclem@comcast.net 1/4/2005
12:45:05 PM >>></tt> 
<tt>Thanks Stan,</tt> 
 
 
 
<tt>That was what I was waiting to hear from you=
. Will
you be able to make</tt> 
<tt>the</tt> 
<tt>sale?</tt> 
 
 
 
<tt>Clem</tt> 
 
 
 
<tt>-----Original Message-----</tt> 
<tt>From: Stan Stephens [mailto:sstephens@hsc.wv=
u.edu]
</tt> 
<tt>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:13 PM</fo=
nt></tt> 
<tt>To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com </=
tt> 
<tt>Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: A few Fo=
rd
musings</tt> 
 
 
 
<tt>Regarding the gold St. Patrick the additiona=
l
pedigree information is</tt> 
<tt>very useful and important. I can find =
NO
reason to doubt the</tt> 
<tt>authenticity of this coin. Everything about =
this
coin looks right to</tt> 
<tt>me.</tt> 
 
 
<tt>These dies have been used to make copper
farthings. I have photographs</tt> 
<tt>of four farthings that are a perfect match f=
or
this coin. They range</tt> 
<tt>in</tt> 
<tt>grade from VG-EF. </tt> 
 
<tt>Also notice how similar the gold coin is to =
lot #4
the silver coin.</tt> 
<tt>Same style (family if you will) and most of =
the
letter punches match.</tt> 
 
<tt>For the most part I have observed that the B=
reen
copper 208s and</tt> 
<tt>silver</tt> 
<tt>210s (nothing under the King) with minimal
punctuation are the best</tt> 
<tt>executed.</tt> 
 
<tt>I do disagree with Mike's hunch that this go=
ld
coin may have been made</tt> 
<tt>a few years after the copper and silver coin=
s were
produced. I have</tt> 
<tt>made it a point to study the edges carefully=
and I
have seen wide</tt> 
<tt>course</tt> 
<tt>edging on many farthings as well as some of =
the
shillings. The picture</tt> 
<tt>of the gold coin is excellent and the fabric=
of
the coin looks right</tt> 
<tt>to</tt> 
<tt>me.</tt> 
 
<tt>I still don't think the magnitude of this se=
ries
is fully understood.</tt> 
<tt>Two hundred and fifty plus varieties of fart=
hings.
Most showing a</tt> 
<tt>great</tt> 
<tt>deal of circulation wear and tear. A large n=
umber
of halfpence at</tt> 
<tt>least</tt> 
<tt>at one time. Many more varieties of shilling=
s than
was previously</tt> 
<tt>thought to exist. There is even a well worn
halfpence struck in silver</tt> 
<tt>that pedigrees back to the 18th century as w=
ell as
a martlet under the</tt> 
<tt>king farthing proof that is struck in lead.<=
/font></tt> 
 
<tt>Irish gold is very rare. About a dozen pisto=
les
and double pistoles</tt> 
<tt>from the civil war period have survived. It =
is
remarkable that this</tt> 
<tt>St.</tt> 
<tt>Patrick has as well.</tt> 
 
<tt>My two cents worth,</tt> 
<tt>Stan</tt> 
 
 
 
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