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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Brasher Doubloons
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Generally only $250-350.
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray Williams <njraywms@o...>
wrote:
> John,
> I would guess $600 to $750
> Ray
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johnmenc@o...
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Brasher Doubloons
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bought a teaspoon recently with a E. Brasher countermark. Anyone
> want to guess the average price for such an object????
>
> John Lorenzo
>
>
>
> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "kay" <kschlemm@c...>
wrote:
> > Does anyone else think that Rob is Mario or Les, which is it?
> Maybe thats why he's with him so much. Great reading. Somebody
> needs to write a book on this whole affair.
> > Kayla
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Byron Weston
> > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Brasher Doubloons
> >
> >
> >
> > I really don't like or dislike Mario/Les but I do find him
to be
> a
> > very interesting personality. That certainly doesn't mean
that I
> > believe everything he's said/says and I never trust people
who
> tell
> > only half-truths, use aliases, or otherwise use deception
with
> malice
> > of forethought.
> > It sounds as if you idolize him though, Rob, and I would
> strongly
> > suggest that you find someone better to idolize and emulate.
You
> may
> > be risking reaping what he has sown, and no one in this
group is
> > going to forget that.
> > Byron
> >
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "rob" <knecht01@c...>
> wrote:
> > > Mr. Byron, I see Mario all the time and we talk
constantly, me
> > being a colonial aficinado also, we share in the war stories
in
> this
> > hobby as well. Mario told me to join this egroup and showed
me
> how,
> > he never specifically knocked anyone but did tell me all the
> facts of
> > his test to this group. I would like to clear something
> important.
> > Mario only targeted certain members who he felt were the
> strongholds
> > in deeming colonials either genuine or not, thats all. He,
Mario
> did
> > tell me that this group is extremely knowledable and could
help
> in
> > the research aspect of what he does not know himself, so,
yes, I
> > recently joined and listened carefully and to see reactions
from
> > members in this group. I understand that some do not like
Mario
> and
> > will probably not like me after tonight, thats okay, but I
would
> > ceretainly go to bat on Mario's behalf of knowledge in the
> forgery
> > area, alot is needed to be further researched and explainned
and
> > after he bought the Mannos collection, his study had broaden
> what
> > could be expected in this field, he wanted to share
knowledge,
> not
> > start fights, but all agreed, he is strong minded and strong
> willed
> > after he himself was ripped off by a dealer for nearly
$8,000
> some
> > years ago. I have to believe what he, Mario has always
said; "
> Be
> > extremely cautious but extremely knowledgable and to make
your
> own
> > decissions on your own research, not someone elses notes of
> > interest", I strongly believe it in this field. I always
> believed in
> > conjecture. Who is to say who is right and who is wrong, I
find
> it
> > that there is alot to be further studied and colonial
coinage is
> the
> > perfect tool, not necessary books from past authors and past
> sales,
> > afterall, where did their information come from? See, it's
like
> a
> > merry-go-round, stiries are created 100 years ago and after
> being
> > told for 100 years, that story has definitly changed.
> > > Rob
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Byron Weston
> > > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Brasher Doubloons
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "rob"
<knecht01@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Dear Mr. Moore;
> > > > As I stand behind Mario because I know him well enough
to
> do so
> > in
> > > 21 years, not once has he taken advantage of anyone or a
> > situation
> > > but to focus on what is real and what is not real. All
Mario
> did
> > was
> > > to "test" the integrity of certain influencial C-4
members
> whom
> > he
> > > had seen group together and play nothing but favortism.
Are
> you
> > for
> > > favoritism Mr. Moore, it certainly seems like it or is
this
> a
> > follow
> > > the leader type group. I remember when Mario sent a new
> jersey to
> > tom
> > > rinaldo who in return had sent it back safter 4 months
only
> to
> > say
> > > that it is a forgery but surely after Mario had sold the
> coin for
> > > mere peanuts to a east coast collector, that same
collector
> who
> > is
> > > part of the C-4 elite is now working on confirming that
it
> is a
> > > legitimate variety of contemporary times when
manufactured,
> so
> > tell
> > > me who "buffaloed" who in that deal. As I see it, C-4 is
a
> good
> > group
> > > but definite measures are needed to re elect new board
> members
> > and to
> > > re organize a department to look into possibility of
> forgeries, I
> > > know that Mario has brought this to your attentions in
the
> past,
> > but
> > > as always, it is collectors like you Mr. Moore and your
C-4
> > president
> > > that wants to turn a proposition like that down, only to
in -
> > still in
> > > the minds that you cannot do so to keep your positions
> favorable
> > > agmonst the elite in this group and collecting arena.
Mr.
> Mario
> > has
> > > never defrauded anyone at anytime, you are still upset
that
> > Marios
> > > test out did your wit.
> > > > Rob Knecht
> > >
> > > Actually, I guess you could say we were being kind or
polite
> to
> > Les,
> > > Rob, as many of us had our suspicions from the beginning
of
> > > his "test." Besides, your membership having started in
this
> group
> > on
> > > Oct. 15 I'm not sure how you would've known so much
about
> that;
> > also
> > > considering the fact that JCS referred only to an "M."
Also
> not
> > to
> > > mention the subject matter of the posts to which you
have
> > responded,
> > > that you seem to share as much knowledge as Les might
about
> those
> > > subjects.
> > > Curios.
> > > Connect?!
> > > Byron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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