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Clem -- I failed to reply to your specific questions below. See in RED. Jim/CNLF
JCSpilman wrote:
> Clem -- > > No rush. > > It has been over a year and the NJ eSIG has accomplished very > little while with 27 members it could have had a completely > populated PHOTO section for reference by now. A few more days > or months are not important. Take your time. We simply have > now the format established for an orderly storage of images > for the NJs. > > Hopefully the disinformation regarding "ownership" of images > (whatever that term really means) has been clarified to the > satisfaction of our Patrons with our instructions for placing a > personal copyright within the .JPG EXIF sections.. > > The one accomplishment has been Ray Williams' excellent work on > the die interlock charts which now need to be converted into > DACs - Die Analysis Charts. These charts are essential to > each eSIG in visualizing the human interactions that took place > during the coinage production. > > So - please take your time. In another year we will have > established sufficient records for the EAC community so that > the theft and resale of suspect coins can be so quickly > tdebntifiable that that traffic will cease. > > Jim/CNLF > > ========================================== > > > > "Clement V. Schettino" wrote: > >> OK Jim, >> >> I�m very tired right now and am going to bed; hopefully we >> can �talk� more tomorrow about this subject? It appears my >> coins will get there numbers in the order they were >> uploaded?Not necessarily Clem. I don't have suffficient >> head-bone memory to remember what we have done and depend on >> the computer to select a number/initial combination that has >> not previously been used. >> >> BTW, why was my 15-U or 12-G not harvested? Also why do you >> have three different variety NJ�s in the 15-U folder as >> electros? They were! I need to set up some SPECIAL folders >> for "electros" and "St.Pats" and etc which I will do shortly >> as time permits. >> >> Another thing while I�m thinking of it, I still haven�t >> figured out how to get my copyright into the �comments box� >> or where it even exists for that matter, nor do I understand >> how others would see it or how they would know where to look >> to see if one was there? Last question first. For most >> Image Processing software the "Comments" pop-up automatically >> when you open an Image file. In my case where I am using >> GraphicConverter 5.4 Classic for MAC, all four embeds pop-up >> automatically. These are Image, EXIF, XMP and Comments. i >> have posted and sent images of these functions to all eSIGs >> in the past. >> >> Last - read your instructions or "read me" file for your >> Image software. In PhotoShop there is a pull-down, I >> believe, for "add comments". >> >> Jim/CNLF >> >> ========================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Clem >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JCSpilman [mailto:JCSpilman1@Comcast.NET] >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:27 PM >> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] New Jersey eSIG PHOTOs >> folders >> >> Clem - - >> >> YES - as per eSIG.BASICs. Go to the NJ eSIG and to the PHOTO >> section and look at 33-U for example. The CNLF-MCC Harvest >> Computer assigns a 10001 number where one has not been >> supplied by the poster. Next would be 10002CVS for you. >> >> This is the way it has been for the past year or so. It is >> now fairly well accepted by most folk. And - as we said >> previously, you can readily add your own personal Copyright � >> statement in the embedded .JPG "comment" file, if you wish, >> together with any other text that you believe might be >> appropriate. >> >> Jim/CNLF >> >> ========================== >> >> "Clement V. Schettino" wrote: >> >> > And just what is the �1234� supposed to stand for if I don�t >> > have them filed by inventory number, do we just make some >> > meaningless number up? Or can I just use �1234CVS� for all >> > my images and then put the real information in the brackets? >> > I take it the �XYZ� would be substituted with my initials >> > right? >> > Clem >> > -----Original Message----- >> > >> > From: JCSpilman [mailto:JCSpilman1@Comcast.NET] >> > Sent:Monday, April 11, 200511:05 PM >> > To: eGroup-ColonialCoins >> > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] New Jersey eSIG PHOTOs >> > folders >> > >> > Hello all -- >> > >> > The 125 New Jersey PHOTO folders are now set up in the >> > PHOTOs section >> > of the CNLF New Jersey eSIG. These include several (3, I >> > believe) that >> > were existing a year ago plus a new MARIO Fakes folder. >> > >> > As we populate these folders, please follow the guidelines >> > in CNLF- >> > eSIG.BASICs as posted in each eSIG FILES section. >> > >> > We have decided to use a modified form of the original CNLF >> > Coin Name >> > and Image Name format. There are no changes to the basic >> > 12345XYZ.jpg >> > naming conventions, but we have decided that a standard >> > format should >> > also be utilized for the [optional] naming for the benefit >> > of >> > spreadsheet and data base computer sorting. >> > >> > FOR EXAMPLE: A Maris 15-U of 1786 would be named as >> > follows: >> > >> > 12345XYZ[NJ.15-U.1786].JPG >> > >> > The Maris attribution is understood and not necessary in the >> > sequence. >> > We believe that this format is compatible for sorting by >> > almost any >> > parameter desired in any existing Database or Spreadsheet >> > program. >> > >> > Please DO NOT post any unstitched images in the PHOTO >> > section. >> > >> > CNLF will begin, as soon as time permits, to start >> > populating these >> > folders with the best images Harvested during the past >> > several years by >> > our CNLF-MCC computer >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > Jim/CNLF >> > >> > P.S. If there are any questions - please direct them to >> > CNLF@CNLF.ORG, >> > and RED FLAG if possible. >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: >> > 4/11/2005 >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: >> 4/11/2005 >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewJerseyCoppers/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > NewJerseyCoppers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of Service. >
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body link="#0000FF" vlink="#0000FF" lang="EN-US"> <b>Clem -- I failed to reply to your specific questions below. <font color="#FF0F27">See in RED.</font> Jim/CNLF</b> <p>JCSpilman wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Clem -- <p>No rush. <p>It has been over a year and the NJ eSIG has accomplished very little while with 27 members it could have had a completely populated PHOTO section for reference by now. A few more days or months are not important. Take your time. We simply have now the format established for an orderly storage of images for the NJs. <p>Hopefully the disinformation regarding "ownership" of images (whatever that term really means) has been clarified to the satisfaction of our Patrons with our instructions for placing a personal copyright within the .JPG EXIF sections.. <p>The one accomplishment has been Ray Williams' excellent work on the die interlock charts which now need to be converted into DACs - Die Analysis Charts. These charts are essential to each eSIG in visualizing the human interactions that took place during the coinage production. <p>So - please take your time. In another year we will have established sufficient records for the EAC community so that the theft and resale of suspect coins can be so quickly tdebntifiable that that traffic will cease. <p>Jim/CNLF <p>========================================== <br> <br> <p>"Clement V. Schettino" wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Wingdings; panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} p {margin-right:0in; margin-left:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} tt {font-family:"Courier New";} span.emailstyle19 {font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.EmailStyle20 {font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} /* List Definitions */ ol {margin-bottom:0in;} ul {margin-bottom:0in;} --> </style>
<div class=Section1> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><font face="Arial"><font color="#000080"><font size=-1>OK Jim,</font></font></font></span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><font color="#000080">I�m very tired right now and am going to bed; hopefully we can �talk� more tomorrow about this subject? It appears my coins will get there numbers in the order they were uploaded?</span></font><b><font color="#ED181E">Not necessarily Clem. I don't have suffficient head-bone memory to remember what we have done and depend on the computer to select a number/initial combination that has not previously been used.</font></b></font></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><font color="#000080">BTW, why was my 15-U or 12-G not harvested? Also why do you have three different variety NJ�s in the 15-U folder as electros?</span> </font><b><font color="#ED181E"> They were! I need to set up some SPECIAL folders for "electros" and "St.Pats" and etc which I will do shortly as time permits.</font></b></font></font><b><font color="#ED181E"></font></b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><font color="#000080">Another thing while I�m thinking of it, I still haven�t figured out how to get my copyright into the �comments box� or where it even exists for that matter, nor do I understand how others would see it or how they would know where to look to see if one was there?</span> </font><b><font color="#ED181E">Last question first. For most Image Processing software the "Comments" pop-up automatically when you open an Image file. In my case where I am using GraphicConverter 5.4 Classic for MAC, </font><font color="#000000">all four embeds</font><font color="#ED181E"> pop-up automatically. These are Image, EXIF, XMP and Comments. i have posted and sent images of these functions to all eSIGs in the past.</font></b></font></font> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#ED181E"><font size=-1></font></font></font></b></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#ED181E"><font size=-1>Last - read your instructions or "read me" file for your Image software. In PhotoShop there is a pull-down, I believe, for "add comments".</font></font></font></b> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#ED181E"><font size=-1></font></font></font></b></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1>-----Original Message-----</font></font> <br><span style='font-weight:bold'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>From:</span></b> JCSpilman [<a href="mailto:JCSpilman1@Comcast.NET">mailto:JCSpilman1@Comcast.NET</a>]</font></font> <br><span style='font-weight:bold'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 11, 2005 11:27 PM</font></font> <br><span style='font-weight:bold'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>To:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</font></font> <br><span style='font-weight:bold'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] New Jersey eSIG PHOTOs folders</font></font></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>Clem - - </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>YES - as per eSIG.BASICs. Go to the NJ eSIG and to the PHOTO section and look at 33-U for example. The CNLF-MCC Harvest Computer assigns a 10001 number where one has not been supplied by the poster. Next would be 10002CVS for you. </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>This is the way it has been for the past year or so. It is now fairly well accepted by most folk. And - as we said previously, you can readily add your own personal Copyright © statement in the embedded .JPG "comment" file, if you wish, together with any other text that you believe might be appropriate. </font></font></span>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>"Clement V. Schettino" wrote: </font></font></span> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' TYPE=CITE> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><font face="Arial"><font color="#000080"><font size=-1>And just what is the �1234� supposed to stand for if I don�t have them filed by inventory number, do we just make some meaningless number up? Or can I just use �1234CVS� for all my images and then put the real information in the brackets? I take it the �XYZ� would be substituted with my initials right?</font></font></font></span></div>
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<br><span style='font-weight:bold'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>From:</span></b> JCSpilman [<a href="mailto:JCSpilman1@Comcast.NET">mailto:JCSpilman1@Comcast.NET</a>]</font></font> <br><span style='font-weight:bold'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>Sent:</span></b>Monday, April 11, 200511:05 PM</font></font> <br><span style='font-weight:bold'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>To:</span></b> eGroup-ColonialCoins</font></font> <br><span style='font-weight:bold'><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>Subject:</span></b> [Colonial Numismatics] New Jersey eSIG PHOTOs folders</font></font></span>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>Hello all -- </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>The 125 New Jersey PHOTO folders are now set up in the PHOTOs section</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>of the CNLF New Jersey eSIG. These include several (3, I believe) that</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>were existing a year ago plus a new MARIO Fakes folder. </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>As we populate these folders, please follow the guidelines in CNLF-</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>eSIG.BASICs as posted in each eSIG FILES section. </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>We have decided to use a modified form of the original CNLF Coin Name</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>and Image Name format. There are no changes to the basic 12345XYZ.jpg</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>naming conventions, but we have decided that a standard format should</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>also be utilized for the [optional] naming for the benefit of</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>spreadsheet and data base computer sorting. </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>FOR EXAMPLE: A Maris 15-U of 1786 would be named as follows: </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>12345XYZ[NJ.15-U.1786].JPG </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>The Maris attribution is understood and not necessary in the sequence.</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>We believe that this format is compatible for sorting by almost any</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>parameter desired in any existing Database or Spreadsheet program. </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>Please DO NOT post any unstitched images in the PHOTO section. </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>CNLF will begin, as soon as time permits, to start populating these</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>folders with the best images Harvested during the past several years by</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>our CNLF-MCC computer </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>Thanks. </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>Jim/CNLF </font></font></span>
<p style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>P.S. If there are any questions - please direct them to CNLF@CNLF.ORG,</font></font> <br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>and <span style='color:#ED181E;font-weight:bold'><b><font color="#ED181E">RED FLAG</span></font></b> if possible. </font></font></span>
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