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Ray,
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Excellent post. I am always amazed by how some people denigrate themselves and their future legacies, however minor, with what they post. I am involved in a fair number of internet groups and in most of them a relatively few who do not apparently care about this ruin it for everyone.
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-----Original Message----- From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com= ] On Behalf Of Ray Williams Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:14 AM To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567)
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Guys,
I had sent this to an eSIG that I'm a member of. I thought I'd post it here too. Please read the text on the ebay lot too.
Ray W
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Hi All,
I saw this on EBAY and already own a couple copies. What I thought interesting is Charlie Davis' view of the Crosby-Maris relationship. How accurate are the perceptions we have of the noted collectors of the past? How we are remembered will probably have a lot to do with what we post on line. Very few of us will be remembered as the hobby greats, like those that we "revere" from the 19th and 20th Centuries. Certainly not me. But once we do something in cyber space, it's there forever for all to see. When posting on the public groups (and private too), let's think for a second about what we post and how it's presented, and only then click the send button. There's always several ways to express an opinion. The hobby will respect the mature and reasonable posts. Also, we're all of moderate intelligence and our posts should reflect that too. I still remember how t= o diagram a sentence, thanks to Mrs. Kissel in Grade School. The occasional humorous post and off topic statements help to lighten up the group, and I look forward to them - especially Steve Frank's! Well, I could go on but let me summarize by saying that I'd appreciate an atmosphere where we share the hobby with consideration for each other.=20=20
Ray
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The Woodburytype Plate of Dr. Edward Maris, 6 pages, accompanied by a super= b reprint of the 1875 plate depicting 48 images of New Jersey, Connecticut an= d Vermont coppers, text, which explores the conflicts between Maris and Crosby, formatted to be inserted after the Newman foreword in the 1983 ediiton of Crosby's Early Coins of America. One of 100 produced. New. .. ................................. ............... ............. ................. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ........ ....... ............... ............. ................... .......... Shipping to a U.S. address, media mail insured $4.00 combinable with other lots offered at a reduced total rate. If you do not wish insurance, you may deduct $1.30. Foreign or Priority First Class rates available upon request. Massachusetts residents must add 5% sales tax.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Buyers will be billed promptly, and those who cannot wait may determine their invoices themselves as the postage is clearly indicated for each lot and our mailing information and other important Terms of Sale including procedure for feedback are clearly stated in our ME page (Center of the page, next to the Power Seller Logo) .... And finally, not to insult the intelligence of the reader, please note that there are no coins included with this lot. Any coins illustrated are just that - illustrations. Please do not ask for a refund (as several have done) if all you receive is a printed work. That is all that is being offered.=20
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ray,</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Excellent post. I am always amaz= ed by how some people denigrate themselves and their future legacies, however minor, = with what they post. I am involved in a fair number of internet groups and= in most of them a relatively few who do not apparently care about this ruin it for everyone.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DTahom= a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br= > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com] <b><= span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ray Williams<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, April 16, 20= 05 9:14 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> colonial-coins@yahoogrou= ps.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Colonial Numismati= cs] njray sent you this eBay item: Maris Woodburytype Plate of Colonials (#3969658567)</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial= ><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> I had sent = this to an eSIG that I'm a member of. I thought I'd post it here too. = ; Please read the text on the ebay lot too.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial= ><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi All,</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial= ><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> I saw this = on EBAY and already own a couple copies. What I thought interesting is Charlie Davis' view of the Crosby-Maris relationship. How accurate ar= e the perceptions we have of the noted collectors of the past? How we a= re remembered will probably have a lot to do with what we post on line. = Very few of us will be remembered as the hobby greats, like those that we "revere" from the 19th and 20th Centuries. Certainly not me. But once we do something in cyber space, it's there forever for a= ll to see. When posting on the public groups (and private too), let's th= ink for a second about what we post and how it's presented, and only then click= the send button. There's always several ways to express an opinion. = The hobby will respect the mature and reasonable posts. Also, we're all o= f moderate intelligence and our posts should reflect that too. I still remember how to diagram a sentence, thanks to Mrs. Kissel in Grade School. The occasional humorous post and off topic statements help to lighten up the group, and I look forward to them - especially Steve Frank's! Well, I could go on but let me summarize by saying that I'd appreciate an atmosphere where we share the hobby with consideration for ea= ch other. </span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial= ><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ray</span></font></p>
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