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Return-Path: <nrothschild@nmctech.com> X-Sender: nrothschild@nmctech.com X-Apparently-To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 50104 invoked from network); 12 May 2005 19:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 May 2005 19:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail01e.rapidsite.net) (131.103.218.78) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 May 2005 19:41:39 -0000 Received: from www.nmctech.com (207.158.237.104) by mail01e.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.95vs) with SMTP id 0-0489606865 for <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com>; Thu, 12 May 2005 15:41:06 -0400 (EDT) To: <colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:39:51 -0400 Message-ID: <009101c5572a$5d27a790$040ba8c0@I8500> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0092_01C55708.D6160790" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <131120-220055412191940343@M2W114.mail2web.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Loop-Detect:1 X-DistLoop-Detect:1 X-Originating-IP: 131.103.218.78 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: "Neil Rothschild" <nrothschild@nmctech.com> Reply-To: <nrothschild@nmctech.com> Subject: A Call for Ford Tickets X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=113398776 X-Yahoo-Profile: nrothschild1
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Bob Martin and I have spent a great deal of time investigating inked Connecticuts and the contemporary "tickets" that accompanied the Ford coins. We are interested in photos of any coins with Ink on obverse or especially on edge, and any paper that came with the coins, such as the little rectangular slips of paper, envelopes that came from earlier Ford sales, and especially the small circular tickets.
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We would appreciate the folllowing:
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1) MOST IMPORTANTLY, especially for dealers. Please DO NOT throw away the related paper tickets. If you are going to sell the coin without the papers, maybe you could donate the paper to C4 where it can be researched? I know the dealers do not generally hang out here; maybe there is some way the club can pass the word? Much of this material was quickly lost after prior Ford offerings. It would also be helpful to have the Ford lot ticket= s for future documentation.
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2) We would appreciate scanned images or, even better, color photographs o= f the tickets, front and back as soon as it is convenient. Also images of th= e coins, with or without ink. Especially for coins released in earlier Ford sales that may not have been plated. Even where plated, the earlier catalo= g half tones often do not clearly show the ink.
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3) Bob and I have discussed for years a "ticket and ink happening" at a future C4. This is the time to do it, in Boston in November. We would lik= e people to bring in their coins with tickets and and/or ink. Even if you supply photographs and/or scans, it will be helpful to see the tickets in the flesh. We are interested in differentiating things written at differen= t times, in different hands and with different writing instruments. That is not always obvious from a photo and especially a scan. We would like to ge= t started to get the word out. I would especially like to photograph the edges of any inked on edge coins you have. ESPECIALLY coins that did not come from major offerings, but every inked coin is important and a piece of the puzzle. If you have an inked on edge coin with a rectangular envelope with something like "HALL COLLECTION" written or stamped on it, that is als= o very important- any evidence of a prior provenance is important even if seemingly unrelated.
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We are about 80-90% through the process of digesting the public data on these coins. We hope that the "ink happening" will fill in whatever can be filled in for the remaining pieces of the puzzle. At the conclusion we wil= l publish a paper detailing what we have learned.
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If anyone has or has knowledge of a 1920 Miller sale or the Mills sale or any other sale referenced in the recent Ford sale with buyers names, please let me know.=20
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Thanks,
Neil
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bob Martin and I have spent a great de= al of time investigating inked </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face= =3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Connecticuts</spa= n></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam= ily:Arial; color:navy'> and the contemporary “tickets” that accompan= ied the Ford coins. We are interested in photos of any coins with Ink on obverse or especially on edge, and any paper that came with the coins, such= as the little rectangular slips of paper, envelopes that came from earlier For= d sales, and especially the small circular tickets.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We would appreciate the folllowing:</s= pan></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1) MOST IMPORTANTLY, especially for dealers. Please DO NOT throw away the related paper tickets. If= you are going to sell the coin without the papers, maybe you could donate the p= aper to C4 where it can be researched? I know the dealers do n= ot generally hang out here; maybe there is some way the club can pass the word? Much of this material was quickly lost after prior Ford offerin= gs. It would also be helpful to have the Ford lot tickets for future documentat= ion.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2) We would appreciate scanned images or, even better, color photographs of the tickets, front and back as soon as it is convenient. Also images of the coins, with or without i= nk. Especially for coins released in earlier Ford sales that may not have been plated. Even where plated, the earlier catalog half tones often do no= t clearly show the ink.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>3) Bob and I have discussed for years a “ticket and ink happening” at a future C4. This i= s the time to do it, in </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DAria= l><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Boston</span></fo= nt><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam= ily:Arial; color:navy'> in November. We would like people to bring in their coin= s with tickets and and/or ink. Even if you supply photographs and/or sc= ans, it will be helpful to see the tickets in the flesh. We are interested= in differentiating things written at different times, in different hands and w= ith different writing instruments. That is not always obvious from a phot= o and especially a scan. We would like to get started to get the word out. I would especially like to photograph the edges of any inked on = edge coins you have. ESPECIALLY coins that did not come from major offerin= gs, but every inked coin is important and a piece of the puzzle. If you h= ave an inked on edge coin with a rectangular envelope with something like ̶= 0;HALL COLLECTION” written or stamped on it, that is also very important- an= y evidence of a prior provenance is important even if seemingly unrelated.</s= pan></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We are about 80-90% through the proces= s of digesting the public data on these coins. We hope that the “ink happening” will fill in whatever can be filled in for the remaining p= ieces of the puzzle. At the conclusion we will publish a paper detailing wh= at we have learned.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If anyone has or has knowledge of a 19= 20 Miller sale or the Mills sale or any other sale referenced in the recent Fo= rd sale with buyers names, please let me know. </span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Neil</span></font></p>
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