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  • From johnmenc@optonline.net Tue May 17 18:13:54 2005
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    From: "John Lorenzo" <johnmenc@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: Hudson Bay Artifact HB Oval Lead Pieces
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    Bob- Check out this recent E-Mail: particularly the notation of 1=20
    Made Beaver in lead tokens ... still checking ... not sure if this=20
    is related at all ... you would not happen to have Larry Gingras=20
    rare book on Hudson Bay Comapany coinage ... anyone???

    John,
    =20
    Almost an exact quote of an earlier email I sent you, with a couple=20
    of major changes (which I highlighted in red). First, the comment=20
    that the early tokens were made of lead. Secondly, that these=20
    tokens were rarely circulated. This is pretty much in line with=20
    what the HBC archivist told me.=20=20
    =20
    The question is what research was done to make the statement that=20
    Jim Tretheway makes here.
    =20
    I will try to track down Mr. Tretheway.
    =20
    Don
    EARLY MONEY OF CANADA
    by Jim Trethewey

    The story of the early money of Canada is a colorful story of=20
    improvisation.=20

    The amount of actual coinage in the world increased dramatically=20
    throughout the 16th and 17th centuries due to the Spanish mints in=20
    the New World that controlled vast supplies of gold and silver,=20
    minted in the form of gold "doubloons" and the 8 Reales milled=20
    dollar. Even though Canada was relatively near these sources of=20
    currency (compared to the Old World), extremely little of it made=20
    its way to Canada; the bulk of it went to Europe and to trade with=20
    the Orient.=20

    The earliest history of Canada (shared with that of the Pacific=20
    Northwest of the United States) is that of the fur trapper. The=20
    currency of the time was animal pelts, primarily beaver, and to a=20
    lesser extent, otter and silver fox. They were traded for goods at=20
    their intrinsic value; a "made beaver" (a single prepared skin)=20
    traded from an exchange rate of =A310 in 1668 to =A35 in 1772, =A32 in=20
    1812, =A31 10/ in 1820, and =A31 in 1827, where it essentially stayed=20
    from then on. The declining value is related directly to the number=20
    of trappers in business who increased the market supply of furs. The=20
    Hudson's Bay Company "bought" these furs from the trappers at the=20
    various Hudson Bay trading posts. After a batch of furs had been=20
    valued, tokens representing the total value would be placed on the=20
    counter. Then the trapper would select whatever goods he wanted to=20
    purchase, and the value of each would be indicated by the removal of=20
    the appropriate token(s) from the counter. In this way, buyers would=20
    know when they were out of money. These tokens were first made from=20
    lead in the denomination of 1 Made Beaver, and later from brass and=20
    aluminum in denominations of 1, 5, 10, 20, 25, and 50 Made Beaver.=20
    They very rarely left the trading post or were circulated.=20

    The French colonists of Lower Canada (Quebec) initially used barter=20
    for all transactions, but as the population increased, the need for=20
    some form of currency became greater. Any available coinage of=20
    intrinsic value, such as gold and silver, was quickly exported to=20
    European traders that would only accept this form of payment for=20
    manufactured goods. From 1685 to 1763, playing cards were traded as=20
    money by local colonists. Essentially an IOU, the cards had written=20
    on them their value and the name of who would redeem them. A very=20
    limited supply of French coinage also circulated; most of this made=20
    its way back to Europe. An attempt was made to produce coinage in=20
    France expressly for use in Canada in the denomination of 1 Sou,=20
    with partial success.=20

    Generally, the European governments were much less concerned about=20
    monetary shortages in the colonies than they were about having cash=20
    to pay their respective troops to promote the various wars being=20
    waged on the continent. So, when Canada became a wholly English=20
    colony in 1763, there was only a small influx of British coinage.=20

    After the American Revolution, many of the British sympathisers=20
    moved from the United States to Canada (often because their real-
    estate was dispossessed). These colonists were accustomed to dealing=20
    in token coinage that circulated widely in the United States at that=20
    time. The merchants among them both imported this coinage and began=20
    minting their own. This as well as federal issues of the United=20
    States made their way into the coinage void in Canada. The latter=20
    had a profound effect. Even though Britian did not adopt a decimal=20
    monetary system until 1971, the first government-issue Canadian=20
    coinage became decimal.=20

    Merchant token coinage was produced in bulk in Canada from 1812,=20
    primarily from copper in denominations of =BD penny and 1 penny. They=20
    were both produced locally and imported from private minters of=20
    England and Ireland. These tokens had a variety of interesting=20
    advertising or political slogans, such as: Encourage Country=20
    Importers, Fishery Rights for Newfoundland, Pure Copper Preferable=20
    to Paper, No Labour -- No Bread, Speed the Plough, Success to the=20
    Fishery, Prosperity to Canada, and Responsible Government & Free=20
    Trade. Many merchants also had more mundane nomenclature, such as:=20
    Gass' Tea Store, Blakely & Co. Salt Goods Warehouse, and Robert=20
    Purvess Cheap Family Store. Most of these tokens can be obtained=20
    today for $15.00 each or less.=20

    Local banks, especially the Bank of Montreal, Bank of Quebec, and=20
    Bank of Upper Canada (Ontario), produced copper =BD penny and 1 penny=20
    tokens from 1823.=20

    Britain finally attempted to produce government-approved coinage for=20
    Canada in 1858. These coins were minted at the Royal Mint in London=20
    and bore the legend "Province of Canada" upon them. This attempt was=20
    only partially successful. Most colonists were particularly wary of=20
    the 1 cent piece, which was considerably lighter in weight than the=20
    bank tokens prevalent at the time. The other denominations were 5=20
    cents, 10 cents, 20 cents, and 50 cents, all of silver.=20

    At this time Newfoundland was considered a separate country (it=20
    entered confederation with Canada in 1949) and separate coinage was=20
    produced for it.=20

    Canada obtained independence in 1867. The new government contracted=20
    with the Royal Mint in London to produce official coinage, the first=20
    large shipments of which arrived in 1870. The donominations produced=20
    were 1 cent, 5 cents, 10 cents, 25 cents (shifting away from the 20=20
    cent piece due to the influence of United States coinage), and 50=20
    cents. These were in sufficient supply to finally replace most of=20
    the non-government currency.=20

    References:=20

    [1] Standard Catalogue of Canadian Coins, Tokens, and Paper Money,=20
    Thirteenth Edition. Charlton, J. E. Whitman Publishing Company,=20
    Racine, Wisconsin, 1964. pp. 4-5.=20

    [2] The Conquest of the Great Northwest; being the story of the=20
    adventurers of England known as the Hudson's Bay Company. Laut,=20
    Agnes C. Moffat & Yard, New York, New York, 1908.=20

    [3] Since the Days of Barter. Nichols, Peter. The Numismatist,=20
    Colorado Springs, Colorado, December 1968. pp. 1569-1574.=20

    [4] Striking Impressions. Haxby, James A. The Royal Canadian Mint,=20
    Ottowa, Onatario, Canada, 1983. pp. 27-36.=20





    --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Merchant" <bobm@c...>=20
    wrote:
    > John,
    >=20
    > If the "tokens" are holed, then they are probably tags.
    >=20
    > Bob M.
    >=20
    > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "John Lorenzo"=20
    <johnmenc@o...>=20
    > wrote:
    > > Gord & Bob - After your confirmation Bob on not being able to=20
    find
    > a=20
    > > plate or pictorial on a "HB" (letters attached) communion token -
    =20
    > the=20
    > > Manitoba Museum which houses the Hudson Bay Company holdings=20
    also=20
    > > believe these lead oval "HB" pieces may be significant. Talked=20
    for=20
    > an=20
    > > hour with the owner - picked them up in Canada from a decoy=20
    dealer=20
    > who=20
    > > had these in a canister, etc., etc..He's sending me a specimen=20
    for=20
    > > closer examination.
    > > Will keep you guys posted on these HB artifacts ... they do not=20
    > appear=20
    > > to be bale seals EITHER as Curator Hoge at the ANS gave me a=20
    full=20
    > > education on these prior to Ford IX with the ANS holdings.
    > >=20
    > > JPL


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