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Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:38:43 +0100 From: Evelyne Godfrey <egodfrey@UMW.EDU> Subject: Handheld XRF
Dear All,
I seem to recall messages about portable handheld XRF meters on this List some time ago... could someone remind me of what the bottom line was, in terms of cost, usefulness, whether there was one type more recommended than another? We're analysing archaeological and museum artefacts, and historic architectural samples of different materials, although primarily metal.
Cheers, Evelyne
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Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:35:12 -0700 From: david killick <killick@EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU> Subject: Re: Handheld XRF
Our conservation department here has one of these, and I've made some use of it. There are two types - the genuinely portable ones with radioactive sources for excitation, and the semiportable types that have a miniature x-ray tube and need to be plugged in to the mains or a portable power supply. The one I've used has the radioactive source, and I doubt that I would bother to buy one if I had $25,000 lying around, which I don't. All handheld XRFs have an air gap between sample and detector that absorbs weak x-rays, and thus can't detect anything of lower atomic number than sodium, but there are additional limitations with radioactive sources. None of them cover the whole range of elements that I would want in analyzing slags, so one would have to change sources to get a full listing of elements in the sample. (The americium source is the most common, and will only give you elements with atomic numbers from titanium up; from titanium down the iron sources is used. The sources only last a few years, and are very expensive to replace. Being radioactive, they are also a real pain as far as permits are concerned - perhaps not a concern if only used in Britain, but taking one abroad would require all sorts of permits.
Our conservation department make a lot of use of this instrument in collections management - for example, it's a quick way of finding out if older biological specimens have been conserved with arsenic. But I frankly would not spend such a large amount for an instrument to be used in the field. You can put together a little collection of field tools for archaeometallurgy - an acid bottle, a charcoal block and blowpipe, a short length of platinum wire, a few chemicals, a miniature propane torch, a scratch plate, a magnet, a hand lens, a small short- and long-wave UV lamp, and a copy of an old text (pre-1960's) on determinative mineralogy (to tell you how to make effective use of the first four items listed) for about $250. These will identify the major elements in most samples that you will encounter in the field at minimal cost.
Dave Killick
On Sep 16, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Evelyne Godfrey wrote:
> Dear All, > > I seem to recall messages about portable handheld XRF meters on this > List > some time ago... could someone remind me of what the bottom line was, > in > terms of cost, usefulness, whether there was one type more recommended > than > another? We're analysing archaeological and museum artefacts, and > historic > architectural samples of different materials, although primarily metal. > > Cheers, > Evelyne
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