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Guster,
We have all been anxiously awaiting the Griffee/Stephens St Patricks book for quite a while. I think that John is in poor health and when he's feeling good, he has other priorities. I hope Stan can follow through with the publication. Stan, Are there any updates?
Ray
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From: Guster Samuelson
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] John Louis sent you this eBay item: VERY RARE IRIS...
So you have all these photos and manuscript...great...when is this
book being published Stan? You have access to all this material,
would be nice for others too who want to learn about this subject.
John Lupia if you're working on the same thing, why not get together
and pool ideas?
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Stan Stephens"
<sstephens@h...> wrote:
>
> John,
> As I said to you initially, I welcome what you can bring to the
table.
> Who and When are the great questions of the day. These two
questions
> have not changed in hundreds of years.
>
> The Griffee /Stephens/ Noyes photo progect that went on for almost
ten
> years has provided the data to nail down most of the varieties of
the
> farthings.......and to also conclude that Vlack had it right for
the
> halfpence.
>
> I have also been given access to the Richard Picker poloroid photo
> files taken in the late 70's and early 80's and I have scanned and
> documented 122 farthings, 44 halfpence and 23 shillings. I spent
about
> 40 hours alone on this project.
>
> Your early posts about the St. Patrick coinage alluded to the fact
that
> you thought that you had discovered Who and When.
> If so........than that is enough.........and if accepted, you will
be
> considered a numismatic hero...........up there with Simon, Smith,
Cane,
> Christmas, Crosby, Nelson. Breen.......and so on.
>
> When John Griffee and me were talking about the scope of his St.
> Patrick book......we realised that it was going to be over 300
pages and
> this book's purpose was to only cover varieties.......nothing
else.
>
> If you think you can prove Who and When........then publish.
>
> And by the way I am on good terms with St. Pat #1, St. Pt #2, and
> St.Pat #4........about 400 farthings not counting mine.
> Stan
>
>
> >>> jlupia2@y... 12/10/05 11:35:26 PM >>>
>
> Stan, I appreciate where you are coming from in your
> comments. I am sure you take great pleasure and pride
> of ownership of your 75 copper St. Patrick farthings.
> I am pleased and happy for you that you have
> stewardship of them and I am confident that you are an
> excellent curator of what you have.
>
> I never owned an ossuary, nor did I ever physically
> see or examine the original Oded Golan specimen. But,
> when it was first published in October 2002, on the
> very first day of its public debut, I was able to
> determine it had a fake inscription cut through an
> authentic patina, through high-resolution digital
> photographs. The Israel Antiquities Authority
> contacted me immediately to discuss this. Since then
> they brought the ossuary into their lab and proved my
> assessment was correct. This made world news. The
> persons involved in the forgery ring have been
> arrested and the case has gone to trial.
>
> Not owning a single farthing, I am confident that I
> can do similar quality research on them and the
> halfpennies as well in all the various metals.
>
> I am sure too that you thoroughly enjoy the
> proprietary right of the 1500+ Noyes photos. However,
> I hope you can appreciate that the Noyes photos are
> not the only photos in existence. There are others,
> more low profiled than yourself, who may own
> considerable more St. Patrick coins than yourself, and
> who do not need the Noyes photos since they can take
> their own, having all the copyright privileges.
>
> I wish you, Brian Danforth, and John Griffee the best
> success in all your endeavors researching and
> publishing on the St. Patrick coinage.
>
> Son of Old Mother Hubbard AKA JNL
>
> --- Stan Stephens <sstephens@h...> wrote:
>
> the truth it has been said resides in
> > one's
> > cabinet....your cabinet appears to be bare.
> > Stan
>
>
>
> John N. Lupia, III
> Beachwood, New Jersey 08722 USA; Beirut, Lebanon
> Fax: (732) 349-3910
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catholic-News/
> God Bless America
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Guster,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> We have all been anxiously
awaiting the Griffee/Stephens St Patricks book for quite a while. I think
that John is in poor health and when he's feeling good, he has other
priorities. I hope Stan can follow through with the publication.
Stan,</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> Are there any
updates?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 11, 2005 4:33
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] John
Louis sent you this eBay item: VERY RARE IRIS...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>So you have all these photos and manuscript...great...when
is this <BR>book being published Stan? You have access to all this material,
<BR>would be nice for others too who want to learn about this subject.
<BR><BR>John Lupia if you're working on the same thing, why not get together
<BR>and pool ideas?<BR><BR><BR><BR>--- In <A
href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A>,
"Stan Stephens" <BR><sstephens@h...> wrote:<BR>><BR>>
John,<BR>> As I said to you initially, I welcome what you can bring to the
<BR>table.<BR>> Who and When are the great questions of the day. These two
<BR>questions<BR>> have not changed in hundreds of years. <BR>> <BR>>
The Griffee /Stephens/ Noyes photo progect that went on for almost
<BR>ten<BR>> years has provided the data to nail down most of the varieties
of <BR>the<BR>> farthings.......and to also conclude that Vlack had it
right for <BR>the<BR>> halfpence.<BR>> <BR>> I have also been given
access to the Richard Picker poloroid photo<BR>> files taken in the late
70's and early 80's and I have scanned and<BR>> documented 122 farthings,
44 halfpence and 23 shillings. I spent <BR>about<BR>> 40 hours alone on
this project.<BR>> <BR>> Your early posts about the St. Patrick coinage
alluded to the fact <BR>that<BR>> you thought that you had discovered Who
and When.<BR>> If so........than that is enough.........and if accepted,
you will <BR>be<BR>> considered a numismatic hero...........up there with
Simon, Smith, <BR>Cane,<BR>> Christmas, Crosby, Nelson. Breen.......and so
on.<BR>> <BR>> When John Griffee and me were talking about the scope of
his St.<BR>> Patrick book......we realised that it was going to be over 300
<BR>pages and<BR>> this book's purpose was to only cover
varieties.......nothing <BR>else.<BR>> <BR>> If you think you can prove
Who and When........then publish.<BR>> <BR>> And by the way I am on good
terms with St. Pat #1, St. Pt #2, and<BR>> St.Pat #4........about 400
farthings not counting mine.<BR>> Stan<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
>>> jlupia2@y... 12/10/05 11:35:26 PM >>><BR>> <BR>>
Stan, I appreciate where you are coming from in your<BR>> comments. I am
sure you take great pleasure and pride<BR>> of ownership of your 75 copper
St. Patrick farthings.<BR>> I am pleased and happy for you that you
have<BR>> stewardship of them and I am confident that you are an<BR>>
excellent curator of what you have.<BR>> <BR>> I never owned an ossuary,
nor did I ever physically<BR>> see or examine the original Oded Golan
specimen. But,<BR>> when it was first published in October 2002, on
the<BR>> very first day of its public debut, I was able to<BR>>
determine it had a fake inscription cut through an<BR>> authentic patina,
through high-resolution digital<BR>> photographs. The Israel Antiquities
Authority<BR>> contacted me immediately to discuss this. Since then<BR>>
they brought the ossuary into their lab and proved my<BR>> assessment was
correct. This made world news. The<BR>> persons involved in the forgery
ring have been<BR>> arrested and the case has gone to trial. <BR>>
<BR>> Not owning a single farthing, I am confident that I<BR>> can do
similar quality research on them and the<BR>> halfpennies as well in all
the various metals.<BR>> <BR>> I am sure too that you thoroughly enjoy
the<BR>> proprietary right of the 1500+ Noyes photos.
However,<BR>> I hope you can appreciate that the Noyes photos are<BR>>
not the only photos in existence. There are others,<BR>> more low profiled
than yourself, who may own<BR>> considerable more St. Patrick coins than
yourself, and<BR>> who do not need the Noyes photos since they can
take<BR>> their own, having all the copyright privileges.<BR>> <BR>>
I wish you, Brian Danforth, and John Griffee the best<BR>> success in all
your endeavors researching and<BR>> publishing on the St. Patrick
coinage.<BR>> <BR>> Son of Old Mother Hubbard AKA JNL<BR>> <BR>>
--- Stan Stephens <sstephens@h...> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> the truth it
has been said resides in<BR>> > one's<BR>> > cabinet....your
cabinet appears to be bare.<BR>> > Stan<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> John N. Lupia, III<BR>> Beachwood, New Jersey 08722 USA;
Beirut, Lebanon <BR>> Fax: (732) 349-3910<BR>> <A
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catholic-News/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catholic-News/</A>
<BR>> God Bless America<BR>> <BR>>
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