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David, I'm looking forward to a C4 Newsletter article from Don H. He's canvasing metaldetecting clubs and searching where people have been finding NJ Coppers. It will be fun and informative to see his results when he's ready. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: palmers4@erols.com To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head
I know you will do well with the talk, and peaople will learn from you. Gonna meet Don H? Good! Convince him to make it to a C4. David
Original Message: ----------------- From: Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:11:25 -0500 To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head
David, It's nice to see the end results of how the scouting program affected the boys. It was all worth the effort! Now I'm ready to jump back into numismatics with both feet. I am actually giving a talk this week at a metal detecting club in South Jersey. I think there will be about 40 people there and my topic will be on the State Coinages. Just an overview, discussing different types, some mint locations and some of the people involved. I hope the members will bring lots of nice colonial finds to share. It should be a fun night, PLUS... I'll finally get to meet Don H!!! Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: palmers4@erols.com To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head
Sounds like you did well. Always nice to get confirmation of what you hoped for. David
Original Message: ----------------- From: Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:22:58 -0500 To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head
Roger, The young men I had as Scouts are now adults and two of them brought their teen sons. They seem to have turned out well. All are successful and seem happy. What more could I hope for? Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Siboni To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head
Ray,
That sounds great. Let us know how it turns out.
Best,
Roger
--- Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:
> Thanks All, > I'm off to Scout Camp for the weekend in > Oakland, NJ. It's been a while since I've been > winter camping (20 years) but there ain't nothing I > could do back then that I can't do now! (And then I > woke up) Some of the men I'm going with were boys > back in the day when I was their Scoutmaster. It > will be good to see them and how they turned out. > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sydney Martin > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT > Hercules Head > > > Ray: I should have read all the posts before > answering -- I agree with Eric's assessment. Syd > > > On Jan 6, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Ray Williams wrote: > > > Hi All, > I wish I had an area where I could leave a > camera set up all the time. Here is the image of > the coin. I believe Eric's right with reapect to > this being a failing die. If so, there's not much > left to this reverse! > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric C. > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:02 AM > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT > Hercules Head > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray > Williams <njraywms@o...> > wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > Can any CT guys tell me if any Hercules > Head varieties are > known as brockages? I was given one to > attribute for a friend and > I'd like to tell him as much as possible > before he gets back from > FUN. > > Thanks, > > Ray > > > > Ray, a brockage could conceivably exist -- it > would be great if you > could post a photo. > > However, it's far more likely that he has a > 1786 Miller 5.3-N in a > late die state. The dies are characterized by > extensive central > sinking, as well as die clashing such that > devices from one side > appear incused and in retrograde on the other > side, and vice versa. > This is the more common die state of the > 5.3-N. A representative > specimen can be found in the Taylor and > Perkins sales (the latter > which also contains an early die state > specimen). > > Eric > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Coin currency of us Rare coin > and currency American coin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "colonial-coins" on > the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > colonial-coins-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > > > <MVC-001F.JPG> > <MVC-002F.JPG> > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Coin currency of us Rare coin and > currency American coin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ---- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "colonial-coins" on the > web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > colonial-coins-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ---- > >
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>new subject line</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I'm looking forward to a C4 Newsletter article from Don H. He's canvasing metaldetecting clubs and searching where people have been finding NJ Coppers. It will be fun and informative to see his results when he's ready.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=palmers4@erols.com href="mailto:palmers4@erols.com">palmers4@erols.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:02 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><TT>I know you will do well with the talk, and peaople will learn from you.<BR>Gonna meet Don H? Good! Convince him to make it to a C4. David<BR><BR>Original Message:<BR>-----------------<BR>From: Ray Williams <A href="mailto:njraywms@optonline.net">njraywms@optonline.net</A><BR>Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:11:25 -0500<BR>To: <A href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A><BR>Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head<BR><BR><BR>David,<BR> It's nice to see the end results of how the scouting program affected<BR>the boys. It was all worth the effort! Now I'm ready to jump back into<BR>numismatics with both feet. I am actually giving a talk this week at a<BR>metal detecting club in South Jersey. I think there will be about 40<BR>people there and my topic will be on the State Coinages. Just an overview,<BR>discussing different types, some mint locations and some of the people<BR>involved. I hope the members will bring lots of nice colonial finds to<BR>share. It should be a fun night, PLUS... I'll finally get to meet Don H!!!<BR>Ray<BR> ----- Original Message ----- <BR> From: palmers4@erols.com <BR> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <BR> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 7:29 PM<BR> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head<BR><BR><BR> Sounds like you did well. Always nice to get confirmation of what you<BR>hoped<BR> for. David<BR><BR> Original Message:<BR> -----------------<BR> From: Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net<BR> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:22:58 -0500<BR> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<BR> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head<BR><BR><BR> Roger,<BR> The young men I had as Scouts are now adults and two of them brought<BR> their teen sons. They seem to have turned out well. All are successful<BR> and seem happy. What more could I hope for?<BR> Ray<BR> ----- Original Message ----- <BR> From: Roger Siboni <BR> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <BR> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:18 PM<BR> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head<BR><BR><BR> Ray,<BR><BR> That sounds great. Let us know how it turns out.<BR><BR> Best,<BR><BR> Roger<BR><BR> --- Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:<BR><BR> > Thanks All,<BR> > I'm off to Scout Camp for the weekend in<BR> > Oakland, NJ. It's been a while since I've been<BR> > winter camping (20 years) but there ain't nothing I<BR> > could do back then that I can't do now! (And then I<BR> > woke up) Some of the men I'm going with were boys<BR> > back in the day when I was their Scoutmaster. It<BR> > will be good to see them and how they turned out. <BR> > Ray<BR> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR> > From: Sydney Martin <BR> > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <BR> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:50 PM<BR> > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT<BR> > Hercules Head<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Ray: I should have read all the posts before<BR> > answering -- I agree with Eric's assessment. Syd<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > On Jan 6, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Ray Williams wrote:<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Hi All,<BR> > I wish I had an area where I could leave a<BR> > camera set up all the time. Here is the image of<BR> > the coin. I believe Eric's right with reapect to<BR> > this being a failing die. If so, there's not much<BR> > left to this reverse!<BR> > Ray<BR> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR> > From: Eric C. <BR> > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <BR> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:02 AM<BR> > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT<BR> > Hercules Head<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray<BR> > Williams <njraywms@o...> <BR> > wrote:<BR> > ><BR> > > Hi All,<BR> > > Can any CT guys tell me if any Hercules<BR> > Head varieties are <BR> > known as brockages? I was given one to<BR> > attribute for a friend and <BR> > I'd like to tell him as much as possible<BR> > before he gets back from <BR> > FUN.<BR> > > Thanks,<BR> > > Ray<BR> > ><BR> > <BR> > Ray, a brockage could conceivably exist -- it<BR> > would be great if you <BR> > could post a photo.<BR> > <BR> > However, it's far more likely that he has a<BR> > 1786 Miller 5.3-N in a <BR> > late die state. 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