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    David,
    I'm looking forward to a C4 Newsletter article from Don H. He's canvasing metaldetecting clubs and searching where people have been finding NJ Coppers. It will be fun and informative to see his results when he's ready.
    Ray
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: palmers4@erols.com
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:02 PM
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head


    I know you will do well with the talk, and peaople will learn from you.
    Gonna meet Don H? Good! Convince him to make it to a C4. David

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net
    Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:11:25 -0500
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head


    David,
    It's nice to see the end results of how the scouting program affected
    the boys. It was all worth the effort! Now I'm ready to jump back into
    numismatics with both feet. I am actually giving a talk this week at a
    metal detecting club in South Jersey. I think there will be about 40
    people there and my topic will be on the State Coinages. Just an overview,
    discussing different types, some mint locations and some of the people
    involved. I hope the members will bring lots of nice colonial finds to
    share. It should be a fun night, PLUS... I'll finally get to meet Don H!!!
    Ray
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: palmers4@erols.com
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 7:29 PM
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head


    Sounds like you did well. Always nice to get confirmation of what you
    hoped
    for. David

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net
    Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:22:58 -0500
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head


    Roger,
    The young men I had as Scouts are now adults and two of them brought
    their teen sons. They seem to have turned out well. All are successful
    and seem happy. What more could I hope for?
    Ray
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Roger Siboni
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:18 PM
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head


    Ray,

    That sounds great. Let us know how it turns out.

    Best,

    Roger

    --- Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:

    > Thanks All,
    > I'm off to Scout Camp for the weekend in
    > Oakland, NJ. It's been a while since I've been
    > winter camping (20 years) but there ain't nothing I
    > could do back then that I can't do now! (And then I
    > woke up) Some of the men I'm going with were boys
    > back in the day when I was their Scoutmaster. It
    > will be good to see them and how they turned out.
    > Ray
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Sydney Martin
    > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:50 PM
    > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT
    > Hercules Head
    >
    >
    > Ray: I should have read all the posts before
    > answering -- I agree with Eric's assessment. Syd
    >
    >
    > On Jan 6, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Ray Williams wrote:
    >
    >
    > Hi All,
    > I wish I had an area where I could leave a
    > camera set up all the time. Here is the image of
    > the coin. I believe Eric's right with reapect to
    > this being a failing die. If so, there's not much
    > left to this reverse!
    > Ray
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Eric C.
    > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:02 AM
    > Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT
    > Hercules Head
    >
    >
    > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray
    > Williams <njraywms@o...>
    > wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi All,
    > > Can any CT guys tell me if any Hercules
    > Head varieties are
    > known as brockages? I was given one to
    > attribute for a friend and
    > I'd like to tell him as much as possible
    > before he gets back from
    > FUN.
    > > Thanks,
    > > Ray
    > >
    >
    > Ray, a brockage could conceivably exist -- it
    > would be great if you
    > could post a photo.
    >
    > However, it's far more likely that he has a
    > 1786 Miller 5.3-N in a
    > late die state. The dies are characterized by
    > extensive central
    > sinking, as well as die clashing such that
    > devices from one side
    > appear incused and in retrograde on the other
    > side, and vice versa.
    > This is the more common die state of the
    > 5.3-N. A representative
    > specimen can be found in the Taylor and
    > Perkins sales (the latter
    > which also contains an early die state
    > specimen).
    >
    > Eric
    >
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    I'm looking forward to a C4
    Newsletter article from Don H.  He's canvasing metaldetecting clubs and
    searching where people have been finding NJ Coppers.  It will be fun and
    informative to see his results when he's ready.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
    <A title=palmers4@erols.com
    href="mailto:palmers4@erols.com">palmers4@erols.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
    title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A>
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:02
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re:
    CT Hercules Head</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV><TT>I know you will do well with the talk, and peaople will
    learn from you.<BR>Gonna meet Don H? Good! Convince him to make it to a C4.
    David<BR><BR>Original Message:<BR>-----------------<BR>From: Ray Williams <A
    href="mailto:njraywms@optonline.net">njraywms@optonline.net</A><BR>Date: Sun,
    08 Jan 2006 20:11:25 -0500<BR>To: <A
    href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A><BR>Subject:
    Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules
    Head<BR><BR><BR>David,<BR>    It's nice to see the end results
    of how the scouting program affected<BR>the boys.  It was all worth the
    effort!  Now I'm ready to jump back into<BR>numismatics with both
    feet.  I am actually giving a talk this week at a<BR>metal detecting club
    in South Jersey.  I think there will be about 40<BR>people there and my
    topic will be on the State Coinages.  Just an overview,<BR>discussing
    different types, some mint locations and some of the people<BR>involved. 
    I hope the members will bring lots of nice colonial finds to<BR>share. 
    It should be a fun night, PLUS...  I'll finally get to meet Don
    H!!!<BR>Ray<BR>  ----- Original Message ----- <BR>  From:
    palmers4@erols.com <BR>  To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <BR> 
    Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 7:29 PM<BR>  Subject: Re: [Colonial
    Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head<BR><BR><BR>  Sounds like you did well.
    Always nice to get confirmation of what you<BR>hoped<BR>  for.
    David<BR><BR>  Original Message:<BR>  -----------------<BR> 
    From: Ray Williams njraywms@optonline.net<BR>  Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006
    19:22:58 -0500<BR>  To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com<BR>  Subject:
    Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules Head<BR><BR><BR> 
    Roger,<BR>      The young men I had as Scouts are now
    adults and two of them brought<BR>  their teen sons.  They seem to
    have turned out well.  All are successful<BR>  and seem happy. 
    What more could     I hope for?<BR> 
    Ray<BR>    ----- Original Message ----- <BR>   
    From: Roger Siboni <BR>    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    <BR>    Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:18
    PM<BR>    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT Hercules
    Head<BR><BR><BR>    Ray,<BR><BR>    That sounds
    great. Let us know how it turns out.<BR><BR>   
    Best,<BR><BR>    Roger<BR><BR>    --- Ray
    Williams <njraywms@optonline.net> wrote:<BR><BR>    >
    Thanks All,<BR>    >     I'm off to
    Scout Camp for the weekend in<BR>    > Oakland, NJ. 
    It's been a while since I've been<BR>    > winter camping
    (20 years) but there ain't nothing I<BR>    > could do back
    then that I can't do now!  (And then I<BR>    > woke
    up)  Some of the men I'm going with were boys<BR>    >
    back in the day when I was their Scoutmaster.  It<BR>   
    > will be good to see them and how they turned out. 
    <BR>    > Ray<BR>    >   -----
    Original Message ----- <BR>    >   From: Sydney
    Martin <BR>    >   To:
    colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com <BR>    >   Sent:
    Friday, January 06, 2006 12:50 PM<BR>    >  
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: CT<BR>    > Hercules
    Head<BR>    > <BR>    >
    <BR>    >   Ray:  I should have read all the
    posts before<BR>    > answering -- I agree with Eric's
    assessment.  Syd<BR>    > <BR>    >
    <BR>    >   On Jan 6, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Ray
    Williams wrote:<BR>    > <BR>    >
    <BR>    >     Hi
    All,<BR>   
    >         I wish I had an area
    where I could leave a<BR>    > camera set up all the
    time.  Here is the image of<BR>    > the coin.  I
    believe Eric's right with reapect to<BR>    > this being a
    failing die.  If so, there's not much<BR>    > left to
    this reverse!<BR>    >    
    Ray<BR>    >       -----
    Original Message ----- <BR>   
    >       From: Eric C. <BR>   
    >       To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    <BR>    >       Sent: Friday,
    January 06, 2006 11:02 AM<BR>   
    >       Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re:
    CT<BR>    > Hercules Head<BR>    >
    <BR>    > <BR>   
    >       --- In
    colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Ray<BR>    > Williams
    <njraywms@o...> <BR>   
    >       wrote:<BR>   
    >       ><BR>   
    >       > Hi All,<BR>   
    >       >     Can any
    CT guys tell me if any Hercules<BR>    > Head varieties are
    <BR>    >       known as
    brockages?  I was given one to<BR>    > attribute for a
    friend and <BR>    >       I'd
    like to tell him as much as possible<BR>    > before he gets
    back from <BR>    >      
    FUN.<BR>    >       >
    Thanks,<BR>    >       >
    Ray<BR>    >      
    ><BR>    > <BR>   
    >       Ray, a brockage could conceivably
    exist -- it<BR>    > would be great if you
    <BR>    >       could post a
    photo.<BR>    > <BR>   
    >       However, it's far more likely that he
    has a<BR>    > 1786 Miller 5.3-N in a <BR>   
    >       late die state. The dies are
    characterized by<BR>    > extensive central
    <BR>    >       sinking, as
    well as die clashing such that<BR>    > devices from one
    side <BR>    >       appear
    incused and in retrograde on the other<BR>    > side, and
    vice versa. <BR>    >      
    This is the more common die state of the<BR>    > 5.3-N. A
    representative <BR>    >      
    specimen can be found in the Taylor and<BR>    > Perkins
    sales (the latter <BR>   
    >       which also contains an early die
    state<BR>    > specimen).<BR>    >
    <BR>    >       Eric
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