Halfpence circulation.

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Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Halfpence circulation.
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I forget when it happened, but Great Britain passed legislation making it a
crime to counterstamp "coin of the realm". I believe it was later in the
19th century, which is why all the PEAR'S SOAP C/S are on French coins.=20
But in answer to your question, MAYBE.=20
We see them as advertising "tokens" now, I have no context as to what they
were considered then. I would think they were viewed by authoirities as
damaged and debased coins, so I would think they had no problem with people
damaging already debased coinage? David=20

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From: William Triest wtriest2@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:03:35 -0800 (PST)
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Halfpence circulation.

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As an exercise in legalistic semantics: 
If counterfeits had become illegal, but merchant 
tokens were still permitted, would putting advertising 
on a counterfeit convert it to a quasi-legal merchant 
token? 
 
Just a thought. 
 
Bill Triest 
 
--- Byron Weston <bkweston@verizon.net> wrote: 
 
> I think this is the first time that you've agreed 
> with me to such an 
> extent, John. I think I'll mark my calendar! 
> Byron 
> 
> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "John 
> Lorenzo" <johnmenc@o...> 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Agreed - it seems so - I still like Mike Ringo's 
> analogy - they 
> > became so worthless and fround upon that the only 
> real worth within 
> > England may have been nothing more than base metal 
> pieces which had 
> > very limited value and ONE purpose would have been 
> as possibly 
> > advertising cards such as this piece. I guess it 
> was one thing to 
> > try to use them as money - but in terms of the law 
> -it did not seem 
> > a problem to put your OWN SIGNATURE on the 
> counterfeits to 
> advertise 
> > your business without worrying about the POLICE 
> coming in with a 
> > warrant. If one was stuck with a hoard ... 
> exportation to the 
> > colonies of course seems logigal ... don't expect 
> this piece going 
> > on E-Bay anytime soon ... when I did buy this 
> piece I did ask the 
> > main question: Why would someone advertise his 
> business on such a 
> > piece or self incriminate himself using such a 
> host coin? I guess 
> > its more about quantity and for what purpose the 
> CC's were being 
> > used in the English economy during their RAPID 
> decline in the very 
> > early 19th century ... 
> > 
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Byron 
> Weston" 
> > <bkweston@v...> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "John 
> Lorenzo" 
> > <johnmenc@o...> 
> > > wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > It's hard to deny ... every couple of years 
> someone tells me to 
> > look 
> > > > in Peck for this or that as an alternate 
> source of 
> > information ... I 
> > > > am overdue ... maybe this counterstamp piece 
> is the trigger ... 
> > > 
> > > By the time your counterstamp may have been 
> counterstamped 
> (>1810) 
> > it 
> > > is doubtful that counterfeit halfpence were 
> still in general 
> > > circulation, John, as apparently most were 
> melted by then, as 
> well 
> > as 
> > > many of Boulton's earlier Cartwheel coinage of 
> Pence and Twopence. 
> > > Byron 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
 
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