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Thanks, Alan. I really don't think it is a counterfeit, but thought it worthy of checking. I've seen several Hibernias offered as contemporary counterfeits, but don't think they are. Most are just very late die states, often with porous surfaces from environmental exposure. Some are modern fabrications (generally cast, some electro). If you were a counterfeiter (e.g., in Bristol), why would you counterfeit a Hibernia, given their undesirable status, low profit potential, etc. Plus, plating brass doesn't sound cheap (multiple production steps), and the metal costs are about equivalent. My analysis suggests that Wood was making very little (in fact, probably losing) on each coin made, so there would not be any real financial incentive to counterfeit. But . . . who knows, the piece is curious, and worth a look. (I call my purchases like this "Colonial Coin Lottery" buys!) Syd
On Feb 21, 2006, at 10:01 AM, vacoinage@aol.com wrote:
> Syd, I am glad that I held off and you got the Woods counterfeit? > on ebay. Do you think that it is a counterfeit and if so are there > others known? I find that a curious piece. I would like to see it > at some time. Please post photos and descriptions when you get it. > Thanks, Alan > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Coin currency of us Rare coin and currency American coin > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "colonial-coins" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > colonial-coins-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >
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<HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml= -line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks, Alan.=A0 I really don't think it = is a counterfeit, but thought it worthy of checking.=A0 I've seen several H= ibernias offered as contemporary counterfeits, but don't think they are.=A0= Most are just very late die states, often with porous surfaces from enviro= nmental exposure.=A0 Some are modern fabrications (generally cast, some ele= ctro).=A0 If you were a counterfeiter (e.g., in Bristol), why would you cou= nterfeit a Hibernia, given their undesirable status, low profit potential, = etc.=A0 Plus, plating brass doesn't sound cheap (multiple production steps)= , and the metal costs are about equivalent.=A0 =A0My analysis suggests that= Wood was making very little (in fact, probably losing) on each coin made, = so there would not be any real financial incentive to counterfeit.=A0 But .= . . who knows, the piece is curious, and worth a look.=A0 (I call my purch= ases like this "Colonial Coin Lottery" buys!)=A0 Syd<DIV><BR class=3D"khtml= -block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Feb 21, 2006, at 10:01 AM, = <A href=3D"mailto:vacoinage@aol.com">vacoinage@aol.com</A> wrote:</DIV><BR = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"> <FONT id=3D= "role_document" face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2"> <DIV>Syd, I am= glad that I held off and you got the Woods counterfeit? on ebay. Do you th= ink that it is a counterfeit and if so are there others known? I find that = a curious piece. I would like to see it at some time. Please post photos an= d descriptions when you get it. Thanks, Alan=A0</DIV></FONT> <BR><BR= > <DIV style=3D"width:500px; text-align:right; margin-bottom:1px; color:#9= 09090;"> <TT>SPONSORED LINKS</TT> </DIV> <TABLE bgcolor=3D"#e0ecee" ce= llspacing=3D"13" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"500px"> = <TBODY><TR valign=3D"top"><TD style=3D"width:25%;"> <TT><A href=3D= "http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=3Dms&k=3DCoin+currency+of+us&w1=3DCoin+curr= ency+of+us&w2=3DRare+coin+and+currency&w3=3DAmerican+coin&c=3D3&s=3D72&.sig= =3Dt8XvZglxXGYU2AXFwBBSZA">Coin currency of us</A></TT> </TD><TD style= =3D"width:25%;"> <TT><A href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=3Dms&= k=3DRare+coin+and+currency&w1=3DCoin+currency+of+us&w2=3DRare+coin+and+curr= ency&w3=3DAmerican+coin&c=3D3&s=3D72&.sig=3DXn2Gi9Ga560Twem_8-0ERA">Rare co= in and currency</A></TT> </TD><TD style=3D"width:25%;"> <TT><A = href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=3Dms&k=3DAmerican+coin&w1=3DCoin+cur= rency+of+us&w2=3DRare+coin+and+currency&w3=3DAmerican+coin&c=3D3&s=3D72&.si= g=3DcVXhhIT3oH0W3x3BEwkP-A">American coin</A></TT> </TD></TR></TBODY><= /TABLE> <BR> <DIV style=3D"text-align:center; color:#909090; width= :500px;"> <HR style=3D"border-bottom:1px; width:500px; text-align:left;"> = <TT>YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS</TT> </DIV> <BR> <UL> <TT></TT><LI type=3D"square= "><TT>=A0Visit your group "<A href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/colonia= l-coins">colonial-coins</A>" on the web.<BR>=A0</TT> <TT></TT></LI><TT></T= T><LI type=3D"square"><TT>=A0To unsubscribe from this group, send an email = to:<BR>=A0<A href=3D"mailto:colonial-coins-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subj= ect=3DUnsubscribe">colonial-coins-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com</A><BR>=A0</T= T> <TT></TT></LI><TT></TT><LI type=3D"square"><TT>=A0Your use of Yahoo! Gr= oups is subject to the <A href=3D"http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo!= Terms of Service</A>.</TT> </LI></UL> <BR> <DIV style=3D"text-align:center= ; color:#909090; width:500px;"> <HR style=3D"border-bottom:1px; width:500p= x; text-align:left;"> </DIV> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HT= ML> --Apple-Mail-29--980415604--
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