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From: "John Lorenzo" <johnmenc@optonline.net>
Subject: What about Charles I ? What about imported Rinnucini Confederate Money?
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In the articles I uncovered from the Kilkenny Archaeological Society=20
recently and which my comrad in West Virginia seems to have already=20
possessed this quotation on page 447 from the Dr.Cane paper=20
titled: "ON THE ORMONDE COIN AND CONFEDERATE MONEY" is worth sharing.
After Dr. Cane gave several examples of foreign aid going into=20
Ireland and their amounts from different parties he writes the=20
following:
It is obvious, from the quotations now made, that the Confederate=20
assembly contemplated and ordered a coinage of their own, and it is=20
not likely that that order remained unfulfilled by a body who held=20
possessions of the greater part of Ireland for six years, who raised=20
an army, by county levy, of over thirty thousand men, who had=20
ambassadors in Rome, France (JPL-Briot), Spain and the Low Countries=20
(JPL - such as Flanders and the Bruge Mint), and who were constantly=20
receiving foreign coin into their treasury. Upon the contrary, it is=20
an assumption founded upon the most rational probabilities, that the=20
coin so ordered was actually minted; and moreover, that the idea=20
expressed in the order for a knighthood in honor of St. Patrick and=20
the glory of his kingdom, would be the idea carried out upon such a=20
coin, and we find grave historians and shrewd antiquaries concurring=20
in this belief. Indeed, once we admit that the Confederates had a=20
coinage, there is no coin more likely, to be theirs than the one=20
under consideration; and to this statement of Sir James Ware, that=20
it is coin of the reign of Charles II, it is not broad of the fact,=20
but it is absurdly so. First, because all of the coin of Charles II=20
has his name inscribed upon it, and secondly, because the reign of=20
Charles II was not a reign in which coin so strongly anti-Protestant=20
in its character would have been struck in Ireland, or permitted to=20
circulate in it - while the peculiar character of the arrangements=20
of the two crowns would be irrelevant and unmeaning.
Cane believes the coin to be improted from the Continent with the=20
Nuncio Rinuccini having a part on its creation due to the fact they=20
were made on his orders to speak his sentiments and those of the=20
party he sought to head and guide. These may have also been imported=20
with some portion of the monies brought to the council from the=20
Continent, at different times before the sitting of the council of=20
the Confederate body. I personally believe the former more than the=20
later with the understanding he landed in Ireland in Ocotber 1645=20
and arrived in Kilkenny in November 1645 before the General Assembly=20
in Kilkenny which was the governing body for the Confederates.
The strongest connections so far in my mind is Briot with France or=20
with Flanders and the Bruge Mint (Spanish Netherlands). Flanders=20
being Bellings linked in his treatise as where the coiners came from=20
into Kilkenny.
Now you have a real paragraph ... Oliver.
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