What is a Colonial Coin?

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John: how about "Confederation Coins" versus "Early Federal Coins"?

On Jun 7, 2007, at 8:40 AM, John Lupia wrote:

> The 14 year experiment break from EAC with the
> emergence of the independent C-4 has done a fantastic
> job in perpetuating (unknowingly) Very Advanced EAC
> studies, and Very Advanced Colonial Numismatic
> Studies. C-4 deserves a round of applause for the
> enormous task of tackling the bulk of research the
> Large Cent people were not interested in pursuing.
>
> The grassroots EAC material of the earliest Federal
> Coinages has been the work of C4 members and the bulk
> of what has appeared in the CNL and C4 Newsletter.
> Kudos to all who did that work.
>
> Time has come to label the material properly
> classifying and categorizing them correctly as Early
> Federal Coinages, and separating them from what truly
> is Colonial Numismatics.
>
> The question is asked what is a colonial coin . .
> what I think is meant is what qualifies any coin to be
> properly classified as a colonial coin? Just about
> everyone on this list really knows this answer very
> well. All American minted coins minted prior to 1776
> and all coinages circulating in America as currency up
> to 1776. After 1776 all American minted coins are
> Early Federal Coinages and all other non American
> minted coinages circulating are now legally foreign
> currency with US Congress setting the value equal to
> USA value. Also, US colonial minted coins, i.e., coins
> minted in America prior to 1776 are the authentic US
> colonial coins that still circulated regularly up to
> about 1857. So we have Foreign Colonial Coins
> circulating in American, and American US Colonial
> coins. Now, this does not include the Republic of
> Vermont which was an independent nation from 1775 to
> 1791. Legally organized and renamed Vermont from
> January 15-June 8,1777. All Vermont colonials remain
> American colonial coins. Vermont became the 14th state
> in 1791.
>
> Now for some more good news the economic status of all
> Early Federal coin and currency issues will go soaring
> through the glass ceiling once public perception sees
> clarity out of the confusion.
>
> Up until now colonial numismatics including currency
> has attracted few comparatively as a market share
> within all of American numismatics. Why? People find
> the genre confusing, blurry, a jumbled mess, and fear
> to go there since it comes off too complicated not
> clear or understood what it really is and reluctance
> to invest money into something they do not properly
> understand.
>
> Once the clarity rings into public perception what
> state coinages really are -- the earliest Federal
> coinages issued by US Congress and ratified through
> each state legislature -- where the Congress was being
> held in that state that year -- simultaneously
> together with paper currency of issue-- pouring
> coinage and paper money into each state treasury and
> into the National Bank of North America, . . .
> collectors and dealers will see values triple, and
> then, finally reach the point of being untouchable.
>
> So EAC and C4 need to reevaluate and perhaps form a
> third organization of Early Federal Numismatics that
> deals with coin and currency that historically we
> received from the 19th century numismatists who passed
> it onto us through their literature as colonials. I
> suggest naming it the Society of Early American
> Numismatics (SEAN)
>
> Historical chronology of each group's specialty in
> subject matter
>
> Colonial Numismatics (C4)
> Early Federal Numismatics (SEAN)
> Early American Standard Issues (EAC)
>
> John
>
> --- Joe Schell <joecoin@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Here's a good definition of "Colonial":
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial
> >
> > If you are attempting to determine what coins should
> > be included in a
> > North American Colonial type set, then I would say
> > any locally
> > circulating coin issued by a nation or entity that
> > did not have the
> > North American land that it controlled directly
> > incorporated into its
> > homeland should be included.
> >
> > Canadian tokens, bungtowns, store cards etc.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Lipsky"
> > <jhlipsky@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have changed the subject line to continue this
> > discussion John Lupia
> > > and others have begun. I have an expansive view of
> > what I consider
> > > Colonial related. That is, I start with every
> > thing in the Red Book
> > > section then go to foreign coins circulating in
> > the colonies. I collect
> > > British from George the third back, French of the
> > period, Spanish
> > > Colonial, and any thing else with a remote chance
> > to have circulated.
> > > From there I collect Hawaiian coinage and I even
> > have a set of
> > > Alaskan "Bingles." The Red Book says "These tokens
> > were issued by the
> > > U.S. Government for for the use of the colonists
> > of the Matanuska
> > > Valley Colonization Project" that's close enough
> > to Colonial for me.
> > > -Jeff Lipsky
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> John N. Lupia, III
> Beachwood, New Jersey 08722 USA; Beirut, Lebanon
> Fax: (732) 349-3910
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catholic-News/
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>
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2007-06-07

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