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    Marc, Buell and all...
    At a C4 meeting a couple years ago, we discussed the advantages and disadvantages of different size and format C4 Newsletters. The present newsletter format was what was voted upon. The advantage of the large loose-leaf format is that we can publish full size plates, the editor can publish the newsletter in page quantities divisible by 2 instead of 4, a chart or page could be photocopied for personal use without distortion, it can be stored in three ring binders, manila folders in a file cabinet or bound into a nice book format. The current size has proven to be advantageous as I don't know how we would have fit all the material into the smaller formats. I do realize that some prefer the smaller stapled format and who knows, maybe we'll change back again in another 10 years... <BG> The C4 officers just want what is most useful to the membership while not too burdensome to the editor, while keeping an eye on the costs.
    Thinking of the Mike Hodder years as editor, I cherish those issues and the history of the beginning days of C4. Mike was instrumental in bringing C4 to fruition. The original thoughts was to keep C4 very informal, meeting at national conventions and having a newsletter. C4 has evolved into something larger than originally planned for, but I hope we can always maintain that friendly informal atmosphere. That is a big part of what I like so much about the C4 Conventions. I'm sure that most agree.
    Ray


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    From: buell@vectrafitness.com
    To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] 77-dd (C4N)


    Marc,
    I too prefer the old style, so there are two of us. Actually, the new
    style is the old style. I just looked at the first newsletters (the
    Hodder era) and they are loose sheets of 8 1/2"x 11" paper too. I think
    it was generaally regarded as an improvement when the stapled format
    appeared. And now the return to the earlier style is again generally
    regarded as an improvement. Can something really be improved twice and
    end up as it started?

    Maybe the loose leaf style can be bound, but almost no one will have it
    done. But it does seem that the majority likes this 'loose sheets of
    paper' direction. And after all, it is the content that counts! And
    with Syd as editor, the newsletters have been great. I also submitted
    articles to Dan Friedus and Angel Pietri when they served as editor.
    They too get very high marks in my book! I don't recall submitting
    articles to Hodder or others who held the position.
    Buell

    Quoting marc <marcm@sunflower.com>:

    > Thanks, Ray. I found it after I dug out the space heater and drop
    > light and checked for gas for the generator. The very next isssue has
    > Roger's "Walter Mould's initials covered by sprigs. BTW., I may be
    > the only one who feels this way but there is something to be said for
    > old format,"I like it"
    > Oh Yeah, I found a letter from John Griffee in the same box so I'm
    > attaching my AG2 St Pats
    > Marc
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Ray Williams
    > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:42 PM
    > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] 77-dd
    >
    >
    >
    > Marc,
    > Buell's article on the third ear on the Maris 77-dd III is a
    > great piece of detective work. It's worth severa rereads!
    > Ray
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: marc
    > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 5:32 PM
    > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] 77-dd
    >
    >
    >
    > Thanks, Buell. I've been needing to unpack my old journals anyway.
    > I'll re-read it.
    > Marc
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: buell@vectrafitness.com
    > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:30 PM
    > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] 77-dd
    >
    >
    > Marc,
    > It is in the Fall 2004 issue (v.12, n.3), a stapled issue. Buell
    >
    > Quoting marc <marcm@sunflower.com>:
    >
    > > Thanks, Buell. I remember reading your article but never thought of
    > > looking on my coin.Did your article appear in the older format
    > > journals?
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: buell@vectrafitness.com
    > > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:13 PM
    > > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] 77-dd
    > >
    > >
    > > Marc,
    > > Third ear by single tree visible!
    > > Buell
    > >
    > > Quoting marc <marcm@sunflower.com>:
    > >
    > > > How about this one? Btw, I'm just waiting for the huge ice storm to
    > > > inch its way to KC. I have a feeling the cable may be down
    > for a bit.
    > > > Marc
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Marc, Buell and all...  </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>   At a C4 meeting a couple years
    ago, we discussed the advantages and disadvantages of different size and format
    C4 Newsletters.  The present newsletter format was what was voted
    upon.  The advantage of the large loose-leaf format is that we can publish
    full size plates, the editor can publish the newsletter in page quantities
    divisible by 2 instead of 4, a chart or page could be photocopied for personal
    use without distortion, it can be stored in three ring binders, manila folders
    in a file cabinet or bound into a nice book format.  The current size has
    proven to be advantageous as I don't know how we would have fit all the material
    into the smaller formats.  I do realize that some prefer the smaller
    stapled format and who knows, maybe we'll change back again in another 10
    years...  <BG>  The C4 officers just want what is most useful to
    the membership while not too burdensome to the editor, while keeping an eye on
    the costs.  </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    Thinking of the Mike Hodder
    years as editor, I cherish those issues and the history of the beginning days of
    C4.  Mike was instrumental in bringing C4 to fruition.  The original
    thoughts was to keep C4 very informal, meeting at national conventions and
    having a newsletter.  C4 has evolved into something larger than originally
    planned for, but I hope we can always maintain that friendly informal
    atmosphere.  That is a big part of what I like so much about the C4
    Conventions.  I'm sure that most agree.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=buell@vectrafitness.com
    href="mailto:buell@vectrafitness.com">buell@vectrafitness.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
    title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
    href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 10, 2007 7:01
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Colonial Numismatics] 77-dd
    (C4N)</DIV>
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    <P>Marc,<BR>I too prefer the old style, so there are two of us. Actually, the
    new <BR>style is the old style. I just looked at the first newsletters (the
    <BR>Hodder era) and they are loose sheets of 8 1/2"x 11" paper too. I think
    <BR>it was generaally regarded as an improvement when the stapled format
    <BR>appeared. And now the return to the earlier style is again generally
    <BR>regarded as an improvement. Can something really be improved twice and
    <BR>end up as it started?<BR><BR>Maybe the loose leaf style can be bound, but
    almost no one will have it <BR>done. But it does seem that the majority likes
    this 'loose sheets of <BR>paper' direction. And after all, it is the content
    that counts! And <BR>with Syd as editor, the newsletters have been great. I
    also submitted <BR>articles to Dan Friedus and Angel Pietri when they served
    as editor. <BR>They too get very high marks in my book! I don't recall
    submitting <BR>articles to Hodder or others who held the
    position.<BR>Buell<BR><BR>Quoting marc <<A
    href="mailto:marcm%40sunflower.com">marcm@sunflower.<WBR>com</A>>:<BR><BR>>
    Thanks, Ray. I found it after I dug out the space heater and drop <BR>>
    light and checked for gas for the generator. The very next isssue has <BR>>
    Roger's "Walter Mould's initials covered by sprigs. BTW., I may be <BR>>
    the only one who feels this way but there is something to be said for <BR>>
    old format,"I like it"<BR>> Oh Yeah, I found a letter from John Griffee in
    the same box so I'm <BR>> attaching my AG2 St Pats<BR>> Marc<BR>>
    ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: Ray Williams<BR>> To: <A
    href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>>
    Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:42 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Colonial
    Numismatics] 77-dd<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Marc,<BR>> Buell's
    article on the third ear on the Maris 77-dd III is a <BR>> great piece of
    detective work. It's worth severa rereads!<BR>> Ray<BR>><BR>><BR>>
    ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: marc<BR>> To: <A
    href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>>
    Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 5:32 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Colonial
    Numismatics] 77-dd<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Thanks, Buell. I've been
    needing to unpack my old journals anyway. <BR>> I'll re-read it.<BR>>
    Marc<BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: <A
    href="mailto:buell%40vectrafitness.com">buell@vectrafitness<WBR>.com</A><BR>>
    To: <A
    href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>>
    Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:30 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Colonial
    Numismatics] 77-dd<BR>><BR>><BR>> Marc,<BR>> It is in the Fall
    2004 issue (v.12, n.3), a stapled issue. Buell<BR>><BR>> Quoting marc
    <<A
    href="mailto:marcm%40sunflower.com">marcm@sunflower.<WBR>com</A>>:<BR>><BR>>
    > Thanks, Buell. I remember reading your article but never thought
    of<BR>> > looking on my coin.Did your article appear in the older
    format<BR>> > journals?<BR>> > ----- Original Message
    -----<BR>> > From: <A
    href="mailto:buell%40vectrafitness.com">buell@vectrafitness<WBR>.com</A><BR>>
    > To: <A
    href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>>
    > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:13 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re:
    [Colonial Numismatics] 77-dd<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >
    Marc,<BR>> > Third ear by single tree visible!<BR>> >
    Buell<BR>> ><BR>> > Quoting marc <<A
    href="mailto:marcm%40sunflower.com">marcm@sunflower.<WBR>com</A>>:<BR>>
    ><BR>> > > How about this one? Btw, I'm just waiting for the huge
    ice storm to<BR>> > > inch its way to KC. I have a feeling the cable
    may be down <BR>> for a bit.<BR>> > > Marc<BR>> ><BR>>
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