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From: Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>
Subject: HB Tokens
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Hi John,
You seem to be getting inbto Canadian numismatics with respect to today's posts. The article you cowrote for the CNJ about the Hudson Bay Tokens was interesting. There was a lot of history about the Hudson Bay Company, but the tokens just don't sit right with me. The conditions that they were discovered is mysterious, and poorly documented. I'm not sure that they aren't modern fabrications. Dr. Northover's input wasn't the conslusive scientific analysis that I was hoping to read about...
I look forward to reading your C4 article. Did you submit it yet? I'm not sure I understood everything in the post below, but I did get that there's a C4N article in the works.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: John Lorenzo
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] 6014 & 6015 - Very Crude of you to mention that ...
Discussing 6014 & 6015: In terms of crudeness (equivalent), type
(both Irish) & Monarch (both George III) ... so they are equivalent
to most collectors ... and you right ... even I would agree the
desirability is there for both pieces in terms of a $$$ amount after
reading the catalog ... but to a Canadian numismatist sitting up in
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada ... it does not FIT into the overall equation
to be discussed in this upcoming C4 article ... you see ... it's the
HEAD LEFT that tosses it out ... even in 2008 ... they are not that
ARCHAIC (close) or as some Simian collector from Pennsylvania would
say ... there so AK-ishhhh ... up in Ottawa <BG>.
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "Clement V. Schettino"
<copperclem@...> wrote:
>
> Hey John,
>
>
>
> Sounds like you're getting ready to resell it already ;-)
>
>
>
> All I can say about it for sure right now is its pretty crude, and
I'm glad
> you set your sights on it (IR R.76) rather then the next lot (IR
R.77) for
> instance ;-) ;-)
>
>
>
> Clem
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial-
coins@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of John Lorenzo
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:16 PM
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Ringo 6014 - was just wondering
Jeff Rock
>
>
>
> Jeff - just curious - since we have talked about this coin before -
is
> this not one of the greatest contemporaries known to us TODAY? -
since
> with this single coin it can virtually by itself have enough JUICE
to
> TOPPLE "almost" the entire Canadian Blacksmith Wood 34-46 Series
into
> oblivion or more accurately to a British importation character and
> yet stand alone as one of the CRUDEST pieces in the entire British
> Halfpence contemporary halfpence world - WHAT IS A COIN OF THIS
> MAGNITUDE'S REAL WORTH IN THE MARKETPLACE JEFF? <bg>. Wood 38-
a ....
> HMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi John, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> You seem to be getting inbto
Canadian numismatics with respect to today's posts. The article you
cowrote for the CNJ about the Hudson Bay Tokens was interesting. There was
a lot of history about the Hudson Bay Company, but the tokens just don't sit
right with me. The conditions that they were discovered is mysterious, and
poorly documented. I'm not sure that they aren't modern
fabrications. Dr. Northover's input wasn't the conslusive scientific
analysis that I was hoping to read about...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I look forward to reading your
C4 article. Did you submit it yet? I'm not sure I understood
everything in the post below, but I did get that there's a C4N article in the
works.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jlorenzo@ob.ilww.com href="mailto:jlorenzo@ob.ilww.com">John
Lorenzo</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Colonial Numismatics] 6014
& 6015 - Very Crude of you to mention that ...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV id=ygrp-text>
<P>Discussing 6014 & 6015: In terms of crudeness (equivalent)<WBR>, type
<BR>(both Irish) & Monarch (both George III) ... so they are equivalent
<BR>to most collectors ... and you right ... even I would agree the
<BR>desirability is there for both pieces in terms of a $$$ amount after
<BR>reading the catalog ... but to a Canadian numismatist sitting up in
<BR>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada ... it does not FIT into the overall equation
<BR>to be discussed in this upcoming C4 article ... you see ... it's the
<BR>HEAD LEFT that tosses it out ... even in 2008 ... they are not that
<BR>ARCHAIC (close) or as some Simian collector from Pennsylvania would
<BR>say ... there so AK-ishhhh ... up in Ottawa <BG>. <BR><BR>--- In <A
href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>,
"Clement V. Schettino" <BR><copperclem@<WBR>...> wrote:<BR>><BR>>
Hey John,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Sounds like you're getting ready
to resell it already ;-)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> All I can say
about it for sure right now is its pretty crude, and <BR>I'm glad<BR>> you
set your sights on it (IR R.76) rather then the next lot (IR <BR>R.77)
for<BR>> instance ;-) ;-)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Clem<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _____ <BR>> <BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>
[mailto:colonial-<BR><A
href="mailto:coins%40yahoogroups.com">coins@yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>]<BR>>
On Behalf Of John Lorenzo<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:16
PM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>>
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Ringo 6014 - was just wondering <BR>Jeff
Rock<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Jeff - just curious - since we have
talked about this coin before - <BR>is <BR>> this not one of the greatest
contemporaries known to us TODAY? - <BR>since <BR>> with this single coin
it can virtually by itself have enough JUICE <BR>to <BR>> TOPPLE "almost"
the entire Canadian Blacksmith Wood 34-46 Series <BR>into <BR>> oblivion or
more accurately to a British importation character and <BR>> yet stand
alone as one of the CRUDEST pieces in the entire British <BR>> Halfpence
contemporary halfpence world - WHAT IS A COIN OF THIS <BR>> MAGNITUDE'S
REAL WORTH IN THE MARKETPLACE JEFF? <bg>. Wood 38-<BR>a .... <BR>>
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM.<BR>><BR><BR></P></DIV><!--End group email --></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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