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From: Ray Williams <njraywms@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Help needed with Rosa Americana Coins -
JPL Reply
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Scott Rubin!
That's a name I haven't heard for a while. Actually, I believe he still lives near me. I haven't seen his name in connection to coins for a long time. I wonder if he retired - he was very active at one point in time. He also had a fabulous library too I understand.
Ray
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From: ignatz468
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Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Help needed with Rosa Americana Coins - JPL Reply
JJF was sitting with me and Scott Rubin at the sale. He wasn't bidding
for anyone but himself.
--- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "John Lorenzo" <jlorenzo@...>
wrote:
>
> Ford was with someone at that sale ... remember his bidding screw-up
> with the 1733 Pattern on cutting the bid and the TERROR. Hmmmm ....
> maybe he was bidding for someone else ... must be I guess ... it
> should have appeared by now in the marketplace ...
>
>
> --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Sydney Martin <sfmartin5@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Mike. Now, I need to find out who bidder 477 was! Syd
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:14 PM, ignatz468 wrote:
> >
> > > John:
> > >
> > > If you mean Norweb:2418, my sale room copy of the Norweb catalogue
> > > gives that lot to bidder 477. The same 477 bought lots 2393, 2417,
> > > 2432, 2444, among others. The lots I recorded Ford buying at
> Norweb II
> > > were : 2387, 2389, 2390, 2391, 2392, 2403, 2441, 2443, and 2443. I
> > > hope this helps a bit.
> > >
> > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, "John Lorenzo" <jlorenzo@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The other mystery is from the Norweb Collection was when I
> bought
> > > > the 1723 COPPER uncrowned Rosa which Ford let me have (true
> story -
> > > > but too long for this Chat Room) and sold recently of course in
> the
> > > > 2008 Stack's Americana Sale. However - Ford bought the COPPER
> > > > pattern 1723 Crowned Rosa - I was looking for it in the sale -
> even
> > > > if it was mis-attributed and try to correlate metrological data
> to
> > > > isolate it from Norweb to Ford - it simply was not in the
> > > > offering ???!!! Where did this coin go ??? ... Syd.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com, Sydney Martin
> <sfmartin5@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am looking to find information on three different Rosa
> > > > Americana
> > > > > Coins -- where they are at this time, who may have them or
> photos
> > > > of
> > > > > them, or any other information about them:
> > > > >
> > > > > (1) Breen 141. Evidently a crowned rose halfpenny with a
> stop
> > > > after
> > > > > the 1723 date. It is not pictured, and no other info is
> > > > provided.
> > > > > Breen lists it as "Very Rare," which means there should be
> some
> > > > around.
> > > > >
> > > > > (2) Breen 97. A two penny piece with a crowned rose reverse,
> > > > > having a misspelled label "UTILE DULI" rather than "UTILE
> > > > DULCI".
> > > > > Breen lists it as "Unique."
> > > > >
> > > > > (3) There was a neat counterstamped rosa halfpenny (of the
> > > > rather
> > > > > rare VTILE variety; it was lot #2008 and evidently went back
> to
> > > > the
> > > > > "Book."
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, I continue to be interested in Rosa Americana minting
> > > > errors,
> > > > > counterstamps, and the like.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any info/help would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, I would like to correspond with anyone having more than
> a
> > > > > casual collection of Rosa Americana pieces -- please do so at
> my
> > > > > personal address rather than the group one. Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Syd Martin
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Scott Rubin!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> That's a name I haven't heard
for a while. Actually, I believe he still lives near me. I haven't
seen his name in connection to coins for a long time. I wonder if he
retired - he was very active at one point in time. He also had a fabulous
library too I understand.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ray</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mhodder@mac.com href="mailto:mhodder@mac.com">ignatz468</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Help
needed with Rosa Americana Coins - JPL Reply</DIV>
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<P>JJF was sitting with me and Scott Rubin at the sale. He wasn't
bidding<BR>for anyone but himself.<BR><BR>--- In <A
href="mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>,
"John Lorenzo" <jlorenzo@..<WBR>.><BR>wrote:<BR>><BR>> Ford was
with someone at that sale ... remember his bidding screw-up <BR>> with the
1733 Pattern on cutting the bid and the TERROR. Hmmmm .... <BR>> maybe he
was bidding for someone else ... must be I guess ... it <BR>> should have
appeared by now in the marketplace ... <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- In <A
href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>,
Sydney Martin <sfmartin5@> <BR>> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >
Thanks, Mike. Now, I need to find out who bidder 477 was! Syd<BR>> >
<BR>> > On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:14 PM, ignatz468 wrote:<BR>> >
<BR>> > > John:<BR>> > ><BR>> > > If you mean
Norweb:2418, my sale room copy of the Norweb catalogue<BR>> > > gives
that lot to bidder 477. The same 477 bought lots 2393, 2417,<BR>> > >
2432, 2444, among others. The lots I recorded Ford buying at <BR>> Norweb
II<BR>> > > were : 2387, 2389, 2390, 2391, 2392, 2403, 2441, 2443,
and 2443. I<BR>> > > hope this helps a bit.<BR>> > ><BR>>
> > --- In <A
href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>,
"John Lorenzo" <jlorenzo@><BR>> > > wrote:<BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > The other mystery is from the Norweb Collection
was when I <BR>> bought<BR>> > > > the 1723 COPPER uncrowned
Rosa which Ford let me have (true <BR>> story -<BR>> > > > but
too long for this Chat Room) and sold recently of course in <BR>>
the<BR>> > > > 2008 Stack's Americana Sale. However - Ford bought
the COPPER<BR>> > > > pattern 1723 Crowned Rosa - I was looking
for it in the sale - <BR>> even<BR>> > > > if it was
mis-attributed and try to correlate metrological data <BR>> to<BR>> >
> > isolate it from Norweb to Ford - it simply was not in the<BR>>
> > > offering ???!!! Where did this coin go ??? ... Syd.<BR>>
> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
> --- In <A
href="mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com">colonial-coins@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>,
Sydney Martin <BR>> <sfmartin5@><BR>> > > >
wrote:<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > I am looking to
find information on three different Rosa<BR>> > > >
Americana<BR>> > > > > Coins -- where they are at this time,
who may have them or <BR>> photos<BR>> > > > of<BR>> >
> > > them, or any other information about them:<BR>> > >
> ><BR>> > > > > (1) Breen 141. Evidently a crowned rose
halfpenny with a <BR>> stop<BR>> > > > after<BR>> > >
> > the 1723 date. It is not pictured, and no other info is<BR>> >
> > provided.<BR>> > > > > Breen lists it as "Very Rare,"
which means there should be <BR>> some<BR>> > > >
around.<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > (2) Breen 97.
A two penny piece with a crowned rose reverse,<BR>> > > > >
having a misspelled label "UTILE DULI" rather than "UTILE<BR>> > >
> DULCI".<BR>> > > > > Breen lists it as "Unique."<BR>>
> > > ><BR>> > > > > (3) There was a neat
counterstamped rosa halfpenny (of the<BR>> > > > rather<BR>>
> > > > rare VTILE variety; it was lot #2008 and evidently went
back <BR>> to<BR>> > > > the<BR>> > > > >
"Book."<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > Also, I
continue to be interested in Rosa Americana minting<BR>> > > >
errors,<BR>> > > > > counterstamps, and the like.<BR>> >
> > ><BR>> > > > > Any info/help would be
appreciated.<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>>
> > > > Also, I would like to correspond with anyone having more
than <BR>> a<BR>> > > > > casual collection of Rosa
Americana pieces -- please do so at <BR>> my<BR>> > > > >
personal address rather than the group one. Thanks,<BR>> > > >
><BR>> > > > > Syd Martin<BR>> > > >
><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> >
><BR>>
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