NE XII in copper

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I'll check my images -- I may have the same punches in silver...
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In a message dated 6/25/2008 10:21:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20=20
CNLF@Comcast.net writes:

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Jeff --

Surely you would not involve such solid ANS members -?-

_Rosaamltd@aol.Ros_ (mailto:Rosaamltd@aol.com) wrote:=20=20
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Clem....one word. "Mario."
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_njraywms@optonline.njr_ (mailto:njraywms@optonline.net) writes:

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Clem,
Thanks for posting. If anyone is looking for a worthwhile research=20
project that would end in the publication of a book, I'd enjoy having a co=
py of a=20
book containing images and information about copies and forgeries of=20
colonial coins.=20=20
Ray
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From: _Clement V. Schettino_ (mailto:copperclem@comcast.net)=20=20=20
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To: _colonial-coins@colonial-coicol_ (mailto:colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com=
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Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] FW: NE XII in copper

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Hey all, see my post below. I tried to send both images at once but they=20
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From: Clement V. Schettino [_mailto:copperclem@_ (mailto:copperclem@)=20
comcast.net]=20=20
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Subject: NE XII in copper
Hey All,=20
I thought I=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2d shoot and post some recent acquisitio=
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This first is what I thought was a very neat copy of a NE Shilling struck =
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copper. I have made the following observations so far.=20
1. It is struck in copper=20=20
2. The punches I have never seen before.=20=20
3. The right upright to the N is most unusual.=20=20
4. The punch engravers scratch protruding from the back of the middle=
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crossbar of the E is typically seen on genuine examples.=20=20
5. The obv was punched I think 3 times. The second (?) close to the=20
final clear punch, the first rotated about 90 degrees at K3.=20=20
6. I have yet to weigh or measure the diameter; it is only a copy aft=
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all.=20=20
Has anyone seen this copy? Any comments?=20
Clem

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Clement V. Schettino [<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I thought I=C3=A2=E2=82=
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some recent acquisitions.<O></O><FONT=
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was a very neat copy of a NE Shilling struck in copper. I have made t=
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copper<O></O>=20
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protruding from the back of the middle crossbar of the E is typical=
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3 times. The second (?) close to the final clear punch, the first=20
rotated about 90 degrees at K3.<O></O>=20
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