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From: "Oliver D. Hoover" <oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] AHEM! [WAS: C-4 Catalogue]
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You're a good friend David.
Oliver
On 27-Oct-08, at 10:58 PM, palmers4@rcn.com wrote:
> I knew you would. If my head ended up on a pike in front of your house
> property values in your area would plummet! I wouldn't want to do=20=20
> that to
> you. David
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Oliver D. Hoover oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:55:32 -0400
> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] AHEM! [WAS: C-4 Catalogue]
>
>
> I've got my eye on you <BG>.
>
> Oliver
>
> On 27-Oct-08, at 10:53 PM, palmers4@rcn.com wrote:
>
>> Yes sir!<S> David
>>
>> Original Message:
>> -----------------
>> From: Oliver D. Hoover oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca
>> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:46:47 -0400
>> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] AHEM! [WAS: C-4 Catalogue]
>>
>>
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa. Guys, guys. Let's everybody just step back from
>> their keyboards really slow like and take 5 or 6 deep breaths. I
>> don't know what this is really all about, but I do know that this
>> isn't the place for it. If there are some sort of C-4 issues they
>> should be addressed to the C-4 leadership (i.e. our benevolent
>> dictator for life, Ray Williams etc.). They should not be addressed
>> here (especially when I don't think that the individuals involved are
>> even members of this group!). Indeed, I forbid them to be addressed
>> here in future. That's enough now. This list is for people to have
>> fun discussing their coins. Fun, people. FFFFFUUUUUUNNNNNN! Anyone
>> not having fun or stopping others from having fun here will be
>> summarily executed in the traditional Canadian fashion (doused in
>> maple syrup and staked out for the wolverines and roving packs of
>> wild backbacon). That is all.
>>
>> Thank you for your attention.
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> P.S. I can't believe that everyone is getting so worked up over this.
>> There are so many much more serious things to be upset about, such as
>> why I have not yet received my copy of the C-4 auction catalogue. Did
>> I mention the conspiracy?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27-Oct-08, at 10:27 PM, palmers4@rcn.com wrote:
>>
>>> John, I take exception to some of your previous comments, and just
>>> so you
>>> know, this is not the forum to bring this up. C4 Online would have
>>> been the
>>> correct forum, yet even there we do not vote on things like this.
>>> As of
>>> this moment, the question is moot. That may change soon, but not
>>> here, and
>>> not now. If you want Jeff reinstated, follow procedures, and then
>>> we see
>>> what happens. David
>>>
>>> Original Message:
>>> -----------------
>>> From: John Lupia jlupia2@yahoo.com
>>> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:49:44 -0700 (PDT)
>>> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] C-4 Catalogue
>>>
>>>
>>> Clem
>>>
>>> I am absolutely flabbergasted by what you are saying. In any
>>> organization
>>> we can hold a quorum. I cast my vote to have Jeff Rock reinstated
>>> immediately. If enough C4 members vote as I have no one can keep
>>> him out. I
>>> assume you too vote to have Jeff reinstated. That makes two votes.
>>> Anyone
>>> else?
>>>
>>> John N. Lupia III
>>>
>>> New Jersey, USA; Beirut, Lebanon
>>>
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roman-Catholic-News/
>>>
>>> God Bless Everyone
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Clement V. Schettino <copperclem@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> From: Clement V. Schettino <copperclem@comcast.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] C-4 Catalogue
>>> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 9:34 PM
>>>
>>>
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>>> Not a
>>> joke!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He is also not allowed to attend any C4
>>> gatherings, functions, educational forums or anything else
>>> sanctioned by C4
>>> or
>>> in a C4 room, such as the happenings. If you think this is a joke
>>> you are
>>> understating the situation. A situation that has been this way now
>>> for way
>>> too
>>> long. All I can say is the few who continue to keep him out, based
>>> on a past
>>> experience now long behind us, are hypocrites for as I said I
>>> believe many
>>> of
>>> those same people deal with him privately. Why can=92t people simply
>>> let
>>> bygones be bygones and move forward?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff has done much for colonials and I=92m
>>> sure would do much more if allowed to be part of it. I for one
>>> would like to
>>> work with him more on educational forums.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have known Jeff for a long time. I remember
>>> (before there was a C4) sitting with him, Rinaldo, Scarinci and
>>> McGrath
>>> going
>>> over just how an organization such as this might begin and get off
>>> the
>>> ground
>>> and prosper. In my book he has belonged to C4 much longer then most
>>> of the
>>> members.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So is there no end to his =93sentence=94
>>> for being a dup in a scheme gone bad?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I=92m having a tough day,
>>> things haven=92t gone well, I=92m sick of getting crapped on and I=92m
>>> sick of my friends being crapped on too!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the officers are doing our (the
>>> members) bidding then I think it should be brought to a vote, a
>>> vote by all
>>> members not just an elite few. And I plan to bring this up at the
>>> meeting=85now
>>> that I get up early enough to attend them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clem
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>>> colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of John Lupia
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008
>>> 9:12 PM
>>>
>>> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
>>>
>>> Subject: RE: [Colonial
>>> Numismatics] C-4 Catalogue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this a joke? Jeff is the most knowledgeable, best
>>> mannered and most trustworthy expert on this list. You gotta be
>>> joking!
>>> Right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John N. Lupia III
>>>
>>> New Jersey , USA ;
>>> Beirut ,
>>> Lebanon
>>>
>>> http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Roman- Catholic- News/
>>>
>>> God Bless Everyone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Clement V. Schettino <copperclem@comcast.
>>> net>
>>> wrote:
>>> From: Clement V.
>>> Schettino <copperclem@comcast. net>
>>>
>>> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] C-4 Catalogue
>>>
>>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
>>>
>>> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 7:50 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Rock is not allowed to bid in a C4 sale, since he is not allowed
>>> to be a member, which is pretty stupid since I consider him one
>>> of the
>>> founders! Not to mention probably most all members are more then
>>> happy to
>>> deal with him privately, as am I. Sad.
>>>
>>> Clem
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
>>> [mailto: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
>>> ] On Behalf Of
>>> Mark Varney
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008
>>> 7:23 PM
>>>
>>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
>>>
>>> Subject: RE: [Colonial
>>> Numismatics] C-4 Catalogue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Got mine in California
>>> !! ! Look out!! I got a jump on Rock because he is STILL out of
>>> town and
>>> can=92t see his yet!! <BG> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
>>> [mailto: colonial- coins@yahoogroup s.com ] On
>>> Behalf Of Ray Williams
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008
>>> 2:33 PM
>>>
>>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups.
>>> com
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Colonial
>>> Numismatics] C-4 Catalogue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig,
>>>
>>>
>>> I received my catalog today in
>>> Trenton . I can
>>> confirm that there is NO favoritism in C4. Just as a side story,
>>> at the
>>> last convention I went to Charlie Davis's table to purchase a
>>> copy of
>>> Syd's
>>> Wood's Hibernia book. Charlie paused
>>> staring at me and asked, "Are there no perks to being
>>> president?" to which I replied, "Nope" and paid the
>>> going rate. Actually, there are a lot of perks to being C4
>>> president! I've met so many fun and interesting people in the
>>> hobby,
>>> that I wouldn't have known if I wasn't active. I get to work
>>> with the
>>> board and all the volunteers to make the hobby a better place.
>>> I've made
>>> some
>>> strong friendships which will last my lifetime. I just don't get
>>> free
>>> books!!! <BG>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: CMcdon0923@aol.
>>> com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:24 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> To: colonial-coins@
>>> yahoogroups. com
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] C-4
>>> Catalogue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The catalog made it to Texas
>>> also !!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CVM lives only 3 miles from me, but obviously there's no
>>> favoritism shown !!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/27/2008 3:58:30 P.M. Central Daylight
>>> Time, palmers4@rcn. com
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tont, Looking forward to seeing everyone as well. The
>>> catalog came to Long
>>>
>>> Island today, so the Convention can't be far behind! Getting
>>> psyched.
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Original Message:
>>>
>>> ------------ -----
>>>
>>> From: TONY CARLOTTO tcolonial@aol. com
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:41:31 -0000
>>>
>>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups.
>>> com
>>>
>>> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] C-4 Catalogue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Got mine in Western Mass this morning. Can't wait to see you=20=20
>>> all in
>>>
>>> person. TONY C
>>>
>>>
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