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Didn't you chide Mr. Lupia the other day for his bad jokes?<S> David
Original Message: ----------------- From: Oliver D. Hoover oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:49:24 -0400 To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Sale of coins
Hey, the kids' gotta eat.
Sorry I'm not the piker you always thought I was.
Oliver
On 31-Oct-08, at 9:46 PM, palmers4@rcn.com wrote:
> "my 20% fee" And I thought you made those pikes yourself!=20=20 > Apparently you > need a new supplier<S> David > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Oliver D. Hoover oliver.hoover@sympatico.ca > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:45:34 -0400 > To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Sale of coins > > > Clem, > > It doesn't bother me if it doesn't bother others. A good idea might > be to prefix sale posts with $$$ so that people who don't care can > just delete the message. > > I especially like to hear about books for sale. I have a slight > problem in that area. > > Of course, there's also the matter of my 20% fee on all sales made > through the list. <BG> > > Oliver > > On 31-Oct-08, at 6:44 PM, Clement V. Schettino wrote: > >> Hey Dan, >> >> I love it! I like to buy coins, books and supplies too, and if they >> don=92t happen to be my cup of tea I still like to look at pictures >> of coins and related items for sale. I=92ll look around to see what I >> have already photo=92d and start us off. I will start my sales with >> COIN SALE; CVS001. >> >> I think the only person that matters, with regards to this idea, >> that might have a problem would be Oliver, if this breaks some >> unknown YAHOO rule. >> >> Clem >> >> >> From: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com [mailto:colonial- >> coins@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Burleson >> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:09 PM >> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Sale of coins >> >> I seem to remember awhile ago we discussed setting up an are of >> this forum where members could sell coins if they wanted to. If no >> one has strong objections, why couldn't we just have a header: COIN >> SALE with a unique ID and a date. Offers could be handled >> privately. Members could list duplicate books, catalogs, e-bay >> sales etc. If not interested that string could be deleted. It seems >> like every time someone wants to sell something they have to >> apologize first in the form of a disclaimer: "Crass >> Commercialization Memo" >> >> Just a thought >> >> Dan >> >> Steve Frank wrote: >> >>> i was sorry to see this in the catalog clem. having bought and >>> sold and traded with you in the past. you were always more than >>> fair in what you'd pay and what you'd ask on coins and really wish >>> you had been given more consideration on your consignments. i >>> guess this is still considered too small an area in colonials to >>> merit the respect those of us who collect counterfeits believe >>> they deserve. i know this is not an advertising forum, and posting >>> pics of all the coins here may get some people a little warm under >>> the collar. i'm not sure if you can do this with your web page, >>> but you could always list all the coins there with photo and lot >>> number and periodically post links to your web page here for lot >>> viewing. i know you'll feel you're doing extra work that could >>> have been done elsewhere, but for the sake of your prices >>> realized, this may be the best route to take for those of us who >>> would like to see the coins and can't attend the convention. as >>> for mail bid only, i agree with you. you could have run your own >>> seperate live auction as we all know people spend more in the heat >>> of a live auction than they will on a mail bid only auction. i >>> wish you the best on what you decide to leave in. steve >>> >>> --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Clement V. Schettino >>> <copperclem@comcast.net> wrote: >>> From: Clement V. Schettino <copperclem@comcast.net> >>> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL >>> To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 12:16 AM >>> Hey Marc, >>> >>> Unfortunately you won=92t be =93stealing=94 any of the Spanish American >>> Colonials, since that whole collection (although meager) was mine, >>> all I had, and will be withdrawn. As you can imagine not quite the >>> plan I had when this time came to sell ;-( >>> >>> It was just at this past ANA when I was on my way to see Vicken to >>> talk about consigning them, my Blacksmiths and much more to a >>> Stacks sale when I got hijacked, err I mean told how nicely my >>> esoteric stuff would be handled if consigned. So the club got it >>> all=85and I got it good. >>> >>> I truly wish you could have =93stolen=94 them all, but in a fair >>> fight. Not with me tied down. >>> >>> You may be looking at my stuff there too, so good luck, that stuff >>> will go as planed. Right now I=92m stuck between a rock and a hard >>> place or I may have pulled everything. >>> >>> >>> Clem >>> >>> >>> From: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: colonial-coins@ >>> yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of marc >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:46 PM >>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com >>> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL >>> >>> Hey Clem, >>> I used to own that Liberace head that sold in Stack's7-18- 2007. I >>> wouldn't want to tell you what I sold it for."Live and learn". >>> Guess I wouldn't be trying to steal the one in this year's C4 >>> sale. Actually, I have my sights set on some things earlier in the >>> sale. >>> Nice 83!!! >>> Sounds like your son is having a great time. >>> Marc >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Clement V. Schettino >>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 21:10 >>> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL >>> >>> Hey Marc, >>> I have two of the =93usual=94 1762=92s, labeled that by Anton before he >>> knew better, which are really 1752 Simians. I do have that 1761 >>> you spoke of. >>> No, Alex is in a Study Abroad Program from the University of >>> Hartford , CT. He=92s been away for quite awhile now and I miss him >>> badly, he was my fishing buddy ;-(. I did just get off the phone >>> with him though and he=92s doing fine. He calls me quite a bit. When >>> I told him I was going fishing tomorrow with his uncle, my >>> brother, he one-upped me and told me he may be going out on the >>> ocean fishing with a friend from the hall. He=92ll be back home >>> early next year. He finishes up with school at the end of November >>> but since his visa is good till next year he=92ll be backpacking his >>> was down the coast and then over to New Zealand for a few weeks to >>> cap it off. >>> I didn=92t even think of having him root around at some local coin >>> shops! I=92ll ask but he=92s been keeping himself pretty busy between >>> excelling at school, getting his scuba certification (done), >>> surfing lessons (done) and traveling locally (done). He does know >>> what I like and actually I did get the attached from there a >>> little over 7 years ago. It=92s still one of my favorites. It has >>> the feel of more of a presentation piece then a counterfeit. It is >>> very thick and heavy too. A friend from Ireland had speculated >>> just that thinking maybe some Mint could have produced this piece >>> with non-existent date as a prototype or sample of what they could >>> produce for Australia ? >>> Me mad=85not mad=85livered! For instance that=92s my 1793 counterfeit >>> New York 2R, IN COPPER and CHOICE! Given one line, no pic and no >>> mention of copper (from Peru ???)? Take at look at how Stack=92s >>> treated this variety in their Sale of 7/18/07, Lot 1023. Color >>> plated with a =BE page description=85don=92 t get me going. I will >>> publish a list of my other coins/lots that were treated similarly. >>> Yes no offense, and 633 & 643 are nice enough coins but really! I >>> wouldn=92t trade my K.93A-L6 for 4 of L633=92s PLUS a ROLL of L643=92s. >>> So it=92s probably safe to assume you=92ll have plenty of =93extra=94 >>> money to bid the front of the sale after you get my list of all >>> that =93worthless esoteric stuff=94 I consigned. When was the last >>> time you saw a CHOICE high grade Wood 17? Oops, I guess you still >>> haven=92t. >>> Clem >>> From: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: colonial-coins@ >>> yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of marc >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:55 PM >>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com >>> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL >>> Hi Clem, >>> I did say that the date contained a bit of speculation <s> or at >>> least I meant to.I also don't think the AK pieces were meant to >>> read 7762 either. Do you have a 1762? Seems I recall someone >>> having a farthing with that date. >>> I'll look forward to your running fox counterstamp. I really like >>> counterstamps, unfortunaltely so does Dave. ;-( >>> Definitely speak with your son in Australia . Is he on vacation? >>> They probably have some Brit cfts down under, might have him look >>> around. >>> It would be nice to know which lots are being pulled:I'm still >>> undecided on what to bid on. Are you mad because they were >>> undercataloged? No offense to anyone, but the mail bid section is >>> rather haphazard with not a lot of rhyme or reason. I would have >>> much rather had the Vexator or the triple struck piece plated than >>> lot 633 or 643. Oh well,you can't have everything. >>> Regards, >>> Marc >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Clement V. Schettino >>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 19:33 >>> Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL >>> Hey all, >>> Another great news letter this quarter. Thanks to all. >>> Marc, neat counterstamp, it does seem to be more of a bulldog to >>> me. As far as the host=85well I=92ve always liked that variety, I=92ve >>> attached mine. I recently won a M.48-g NJ with ctsp, at first >>> glance from a distance it appears to be a K but under a glass and >>> turned 90 degrees CCW it looks like a running fox. I=92ll try and >>> post an image tomorrow if I have time before I go fishing ;-), if >>> not later. >>> Ray, I found your article thought provoking and plan to reread it. >>> And neat double strike too! I also plan to walk down to the Boston >>> mint sight with you guys on Friday. >>> Marc, another great article that I plan to reread. I take a grain >>> of salt with any dates quoted in print, even first hand accounts >>> since many numismatists can disagree on a date, the general public >>> is definitely =93not to be trusted=94 to get it right. Still food for >>> thought. Maybe I can comment further after I read it again. I >>> planned to do that right now while having dinner but my son just >>> called from Australia and I had to blow him off a half hour while >>> I eat so I better focus on one thing for now, ok two, this >>> preliminary email too ;-) >>> John, nice idea for a column. I will try to contribute. >>> George, I was at that ANA and didn=92t hear a single mention of this >>> new MM=92s discovery. I=92m surprised it wasn=92t mentioned at the >>> meeting when my discovery of a new V.23-87C was brought up? So >>> what=92s up, who examined this piece? Has this coin found a new home >>> yet? >>> Later, >>> Clem >>> size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1> >>> From: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: colonial-coins@ >>> yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Clement V. Schettino >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:59 PM >>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com >>> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] 1751 CTFT 1/2D CTSP? >>> Thank you. I=92ll take a look and comment. I=92d been meaning to >>> comment on a few things in this issue and that image was obviously >>> on my mind from there. >>> I=92ll also let you know which lots I=92m withdrawing after I=92m >>> totally cooled down, I=92ve been =93cooling down=94 for a few days now >>> so it shouldn=92t be much longer. >>> I planned to mention it early so friends wouldn=92t waste time >>> researching rare coins that I=92ll be pulling. >>> Clem >>> size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1> >>> From: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: colonial-coins@ >>> yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Byron Weston >>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:42 PM >>> To: colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com >>> Subject: Re: [Colonial Numismatics] 1751 CTFT 1/2D CTSP? >>> It's featured on pg.14 of the latest C4 Newsletter. >>> >>> Byron >>> >>> At 06:23 PM 10/30/2008, you wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Marc, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think it was you who, not long ago, posted a 1751 ctft Brit. 1/2d >>>> with interesting ctsp. It reminded me of a lion. Was it you? If so >>>> could you please repost it? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If it was someone else would you repost it? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> >>>> Clem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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