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From: "Clement V. Schettino" <copperclem@comcast.net>
Subject: $$$ COIN SALE; CVS001
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Hey all,
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I have a book for sale.
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Circulating Counterfeits of the Americas, edited by John M. Kleeberg,
Coinage of the Americas Conference at the ANS, New York. November 7, 1998.
Stiff brand new condition. No photo.=20
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Please email me privately if interested.
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Many thanks,
Clem
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On Behalf Of palmers4@rcn.com
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 12:54 PM
To: colonial-coins@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Sale of coins
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Dan, I think this is a great idea. If we use the $$$ as suggested by
others, then anyone not interested can just delete it and move on. David
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From: Dan Burleson dburleson@charter. <mailto:dburleson%40charter.net> net
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:08:59 -0500
To: colonial-coins@ <mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Colonial Numismatics] Re: Sale of coins
I seem to remember awhile ago we discussed setting up an are of this=20
forum where members could sell coins if they wanted to. If no one has=20
strong objections, why couldn't we just have a header: COIN SALE with a=20
unique ID and a date. Offers could be handled privately. Members could=20
list duplicate books, catalogs, e-bay sales etc. If not interested that=20
string could be deleted. It seems like every time someone wants to sell=20
something they have to apologize first in the form of a disclaimer:=20
"Crass Commercialization Memo"
Just a thought
Dan
Steve Frank wrote:
>
> i was sorry to see this in the catalog clem. having bought and sold=20
> and traded with you in the past. you were always more than fair in=20
> what you'd pay and what you'd ask on coins and really wish you had=20
> been given more consideration on your consignments. i guess this is=20
> still considered too small an area in colonials to merit the respect=20
> those of us who collect counterfeits believe they deserve. i know this=20
> is not an advertising forum, and posting pics of all the coins here=20
> may get some people a little warm under the collar. i'm not sure if=20
> you can do this with your web page, but you could always list all the=20
> coins there with photo and lot number and periodically post links to=20
> your web page here for lot viewing. i know you'll feel you're doing=20
> extra work that could have been done elsewhere, but for the sake of=20
> your prices realized, this may be the best route to take for those of=20
> us who would like to see the coins and can't attend the convention. as=20
> for mail bid only, i agree with you. you could have run your own=20
> seperate live auction as we all know people spend more in the heat of=20
> a live auction than they will on a mail bid only auction. i wish you=20
> the best on what you decide to leave in. steve
>
> --- On *Fri, 10/31/08, Clement V. Schettino=20
> /<copperclem@comcast. <mailto:copperclem%40comcast.net> net>/* wrote:
>
> From: Clement V. Schettino <copperclem@comcast.
<mailto:copperclem%40comcast.net> net>
> Subject: RE: [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL
> To: colonial-coins@ <mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 12:16 AM
>
> Hey Marc,
>
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>
> Unfortunately you won=92t be =93stealing=94 any of the Spanish American
> Colonials, since that whole collection (although meager) was mine,
> all I had, and will be withdrawn. As you can imagine not quite the
> plan I had when this time came to sell ;-(
>
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>
> It was just at this past ANA when I was on my way to see Vicken to
> talk about consigning them, my Blacksmiths and much more to a
> Stacks sale when I got hijacked, err I mean told how nicely my
> esoteric stuff would be handled if consigned. So the club got it
> all=85and I got it good.
>
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>
> I truly wish you could have =93stolen=94 them all, but in a fair
> fight. Not with me tied down.
>
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>
> You may be looking at my stuff there too, so good luck, that stuff
> will go as planed. Right now I=92m stuck between a rock and a hard
> place or I may have pulled everything.
>
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>
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>
> Clem
>
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>
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>
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> *From:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: colonial-coins@
> yahoogroups. com ] *On Behalf Of *marc
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:46 PM
> *To:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* Re: [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL
>
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>
> Hey Clem,
>
> I used to own that Liberace head that sold in Stack's7-18- 2007. I
> wouldn't want to tell you what I sold it for."Live and learn".
> Guess I wouldn't be trying to steal the one in this year's C4
> sale. Actually, I have my sights set on some things earlier in the
> sale.
>
> Nice 83!!!
>
> Sounds like your son is having a great time.
>
> Marc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Clement V. Schettino <mailto:copperclem@comcast.
<mailto:copperclem%40comcast.net> net>
>
> *To:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:colonial-coins@ <mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 21:10
>
> *Subject:* RE: [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL
>
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>
> Hey Marc,
>
> I have two of the =93usual=94 1762=92s, labeled that by Anton before
> he knew better, which are really 1752 Simians. I do have that
> 1761 you spoke of.
>
> No, Alex is in a Study Abroad Program from the University of
> Hartford , CT. He=92s been away for quite awhile now and I miss
> him badly, he was my fishing buddy ;-(. I did just get off the
> phone with him though and he=92s doing fine. He calls me quite a
> bit. When I told him I was going fishing tomorrow with his
> uncle, my brother, he one-upped me and told me he may be going
> out on the ocean fishing with a friend from the hall. He=92ll be
> back home early next year. He finishes up with school at the
> end of November but since his visa is good till next year
> he=92ll be backpacking his was down the coast and then over to
> New Zealand for a few weeks to cap it off.
>
> I didn=92t even think of having him root around at some local
> coin shops! I=92ll ask but he=92s been keeping himself pretty busy
> between excelling at school, getting his scuba certification
> (done), surfing lessons (done) and traveling locally (done).
> He does know what I like and actually I did get the attached
> from there a little over 7 years ago. It=92s still one of my
> favorites. It has the feel of more of a presentation piece
> then a counterfeit. It is very thick and heavy too. A friend
> from Ireland had speculated just that thinking maybe some Mint
> could have produced this piece with non-existent date as a
> prototype or sample of what they could produce for Australia ?
>
> Me mad=85not mad=85*livered*! For instance that=92s my 1793
> counterfeit New York 2R, IN COPPER and CHOICE! Given one line,
> no pic and no mention of copper (from Peru ???)? Take at look
> at how Stack=92s treated this variety in their Sale of 7/18/07,
> Lot 1023. Color plated with a =BE page description=85don=92 t get me
> going. I will publish a list of my other coins/lots that were
> treated similarly. Yes no offense, and 633 & 643 are nice
> enough coins but really! I wouldn=92t trade my K.93A-L6 for 4 of
> L633=92s PLUS a *ROLL* of L643=92s. So it=92s probably safe to
> assume you=92ll have plenty of =93extra=94 money to bid the front of
> the sale after you get my list of all that =93worthless esoteric
> stuff=94 I consigned. When was the last time you saw a CHOICE
> high grade Wood 17? Oops, I guess you still haven=92t.
>
> Clem
>
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> *From:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:
> colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com ] *On Behalf Of *marc
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:55 PM
> *To:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* Re: [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL
>
> Hi Clem,
>
> I did say that the date contained a bit of speculation <s> or
> at least I meant to.I also don't think the AK pieces were
> meant to read 7762 either. Do you have a 1762? Seems I recall
> someone having a farthing with that date.
>
> I'll look forward to your running fox counterstamp. I really
> like counterstamps, unfortunaltely so does Dave. ;-(
>
> Definitely speak with your son in Australia . Is he on
> vacation? They probably have some Brit cfts down under, might
> have him look around.
>
> It would be nice to know which lots are being pulled:I'm still
> undecided on what to bid on. Are you mad because they were
> undercataloged? No offense to anyone, but the mail bid section
> is rather haphazard with not a lot of rhyme or reason. I would
> have much rather had the Vexator or the triple struck piece
> plated than lot 633 or 643. Oh well,you can't have everything.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Clement V. Schettino <mailto:copperclem@comcast.
<mailto:copperclem%40comcast.net> net>
>
> *To:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:colonial-coins@ <mailto:colonial-coins%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 19:33
>
> *Subject:* [Colonial Numismatics] comments on NL
>
> Hey all,
>
> Another great news letter this quarter. Thanks to all.
>
> Marc, neat counterstamp, it does seem to be more of a
> bulldog to me. As far as the host=85well I=92ve always liked
> that variety, I=92ve attached mine. I recently won a M.48-g
> NJ with ctsp, at first glance from a distance it appears
> to be a K but under a glass and turned 90 degrees CCW it
> looks like a running fox. I=92ll try and post an image
> tomorrow if I have time before I go fishing ;-), if not
> later.
>
> Ray, I found your article thought provoking and plan to
> reread it. And neat double strike too! I also plan to walk
> down to the Boston mint sight with you guys on Friday.
>
> Marc, another great article that I plan to reread. I take
> a grain of salt with any dates quoted in print, even first
> hand accounts since many numismatists can disagree on a
> date, the general public is definitely =93not to be trusted=94
> to get it right. Still food for thought. Maybe I can
> comment further after I read it again. I planned to do
> that right now while having dinner but my son just called
> from Australia and I had to blow him off a half hour while
> I eat so I better focus on one thing for now, ok two, this
> preliminary email too ;-)
>
> John, nice idea for a column. I will try to contribute.
>
> George, I was at that ANA and didn=92t hear a single mention
> of this new MM=92s discovery. I=92m surprised it wasn=92t
> mentioned at the meeting when my discovery of a new
> V.23-87C was brought up? So what=92s up, who examined this
> piece? Has this coin found a new home yet?
>
> Later,
>
> Clem
>
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> *From:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:
> colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com ] *On Behalf Of *Clement
> V. Schettino
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:59 PM
> *To:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* RE: [Colonial Numismatics] 1751 CTFT 1/2D CTSP?
>
> Thank you. I=92ll take a look and comment. I=92d been meaning
> to comment on a few things in this issue and that image
> was obviously on my mind from there.
>
> I=92ll also let you know which lots I=92m withdrawing after
> I=92m totally cooled down, I=92ve been =93cooling down=94 for a
> few days now so it shouldn=92t be much longer.
>
> I planned to mention it early so friends wouldn=92t waste
> time researching rare coins that I=92ll be pulling.
>
> Clem
>
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> *From:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:
> colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com ] *On Behalf Of *Byron Weston
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:42 PM
> *To:* colonial-coins@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* Re: [Colonial Numismatics] 1751 CTFT 1/2D CTSP?
>
> It's featured on pg.14 of the latest C4 Newsletter.
>
> Byron
>
> At 06:23 PM 10/30/2008, you wrote:
>
> >Hey Marc,
> >
> >
> >
> >I think it was you who, not long ago, posted a 1751 ctft
> Brit. 1/2d
> >with interesting ctsp. It reminded me of a lion. Was it
> you? If so
> >could you please repost it?
> >
> >
> >
> >If it was someone else would you repost it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Many thanks,
> >
> >Clem
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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